Superficially, The far Left at it again

[Dorcus]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

What a silly thing to ask

If Kwasi Kwarteng were on the radio talking anything but politics (say football) and his name hadn't been announced, I'm certain I would know who was speaking.

[life on mars]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

If Kwasi Kwarteng were on the radio talking anything but politics (say football) and his name hadn't been announced, I'm certain I would know who was speaking.

Should we care, or comment on it ??????????????/

[Dorcus]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

Should we care, or comment on it ??????????????/

You're right it was a silly question to bring up. Good job you never do that sort of thing

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

A few things have put me off Labour in recent years. Off the top of my head;

1 - We generally needed a change after 2008 - Needless to say we are well past that now
2 - They needed to embrace and respect leaving the EU
3 - Need to stand up for Britain and not flirt with the SNP
4 - Need to denounce Corbynism more widely
5 - Economic competence (the most important)
6 - Come up with some kind of viable policies on immigration
7 - Address the general obsession of identity politics / race / what some may call 'wokeism'.

This isn't in anyway any sort of Labour endorsement, but a few things have put me off the Tories in recent years. Off the top of my head;

1 - We need a change
2 - They needed to embrace and respect Europe and the benefits of working closely with Europe and the EU.
3 - Need to stand up for Wales and not try and take powers away from Wales.
4 - Need to denounce the far right.
5 - Economic competence (the most important). We've had 12 years of Tory rule and surely nobody can say they've been economically competent.
6 - Come up with some kind of viable policies on immigration, not embrace a Brits vs Foreigners approach.
7 - Address stupid xenophobia, not going back to the days when Britain ruled half of the world, that being British is better than anything
8 - The lack of heart shown towards our poorest and most suffering people.

[life on mars]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

You're right it was a silly question to bring up. Good job you never do that sort of thing

Cheers thankfully I wasn't the one that started it and people in trust like Boris or Rupa should know better ..

Labour needs to pour over all its MP's social media and comments and purge out its nasties , at that point they could be highly electable .. that won't happened though it the big cities with a high concentration of voters that appeal to Rupa narratives , that is why she has uttered these terminologies .

Just look to Leicester for guidance .

[life on mars]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

This isn't in anyway any sort of Labour endorsement, but a few things have put me off the Tories in recent years. Off the top of my head;

1 - We need a change
2 - They needed to embrace and respect Europe and the benefits of working closely with Europe and the EU.
3 - Need to stand up for Wales and not try and take powers away from Wales.
4 - Need to denounce the far right.
5 - Economic competence (the most important). We've had 12 years of Tory rule and surely nobody can say they've been economically competent.
6 - Come up with some kind of viable policies on immigration, not embrace a Brits vs Foreigners approach.
7 - Address stupid xenophobia, not going back to the days when Britain ruled half of the world, that being British is better than anything
8 - The lack of heart shown towards our poorest and most suffering people.

Thankfully that party will never win elections ?

[Dorcus]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

Cheers thankfully I wasn't the one that started it and people in trust like Boris or Rupa should know better ..

Labour needs to pour over all its MP's social media and comments and purge out its nasties , at that point they could be highly electable .. that won't happened though it the big cities with a high concentration of voters that appeal to Rupa narratives , that is why she has uttered these terminologies .

Just look to Leicester for guidance .

I think the Tories should do the same

[JamesWales]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

This isn't in anyway any sort of Labour endorsement, but a few things have put me off the Tories in recent years. Off the top of my head;

1 - We need a change
2 - They needed to embrace and respect Europe and the benefits of working closely with Europe and the EU.
3 - Need to stand up for Wales and not try and take powers away from Wales.
4 - Need to denounce the far right.
5 - Economic competence (the most important). We've had 12 years of Tory rule and surely nobody can say they've been economically competent.
6 - Come up with some kind of viable policies on immigration, not embrace a Brits vs Foreigners approach.
7 - Address stupid xenophobia, not going back to the days when Britain ruled half of the world, that being British is better than anything
8 - The lack of heart shown towards our poorest and most suffering people.

Thats fair enough. I would dispute some of those, but thats how it goes. Everyone has a different perspective.

[Dorcus]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

Thankfully that party will never win elections ?

.....ever again! It did in 2019. Hopefully the electorate had learnt from it's short sharp shock since then and has matured accordingly.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

Thankfully that party will never win elections ?

We all know what will happen during the next general election. The 2008 economic crash will again be blamed on Labour, despite not one neutral economic organisation agreeing with that. The Tories will attempt some form of "fact checking" operation in an attempt to obfuscate people and rewrite history. Despite their failings in government, the Tories know how to win elections.

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland didn't vote for a Tory government, but it's what we've all been given by England.

[Feedback]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

What a silly thing to ask

Given the thread about the Chancellor not sounding black, I'd say its relevant.

It was also rhetorical, and rather disingenuous.

[delmbox]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

Given the thread about the Chancellor not sounding black, I'd say its relevant.

It was also rhetorical, and rather disingenuous.

No, the thread is about one Labour MP saying he doesn't sound black. You're asking Labour supporters who had nothing to do with the statement and aren't saying she was right to say it it to say how black someone should sound on the radio, which is really silly.

[Dave Blue]

Re: Superficially, The far Left at it again

No condemnation, are you happy with her comments?


Superficially yours
Clandestine

It’s not going to alter the 17 point lead mate.