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  • #61
    Re: Oxford Vaccine

    Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
    If it came again , we protect the sick and the vulnerable, nobody’s disputing that as far as I’m aware.

    What I disagree with is the fact they locked people down who didn’t need to have their freedoms curtailed and people were happy with that, clearly it’s a big deal.
    Because people understood that at the time it was the solution that made sense. How do you propose we protected the sick and vulnerable back in early 2020?

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    • #62
      Re: Oxford Vaccine

      Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
      See, I’m not even remotely interested in engaging with this because clearly it’s someone with strong views, albeit views I think are mental. Obviously we’ve heard all this sort of stuff continually and it goes into a rabbit hole where insanity lies.

      The original post on the other hand just seemed so odd!
      Presuming your reply was serious, just what was insane about what he wrote?

      This is Fauci speaking in 1999 about the grave dangers of introducing a new vaccine too quickly.

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      • #63
        Re: Oxford Vaccine

        Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
        Because people understood that at the time it was the solution that made sense. How do you propose we protected the sick and vulnerable back in early 2020?
        I dont get paid to make those decisions however, I would have followed Sweden’s pathway if I wanted to please the majority of the population, and let the rest make their own risk assessment, knowing full well they would only suffer mild to moderate symptoms akin to many other coronaviruses

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        • #64
          Re: Oxford Vaccine

          Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
          Presuming your reply was serious, just what was insane about what he wrote?

          This is Fauci speaking in 1999 about the grave dangers of introducing a new vaccine too quickly.

          An 18 second clip from 23 years ago talking about a different disease entirely.

          Damning evidence Fauci is part of the "plandemic" no doubt.

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          • #65
            Re: Oxford Vaccine

            Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
            An 18 second clip from 23 years ago talking about a different disease entirely.

            Damning evidence Fauci is part of the "plandemic" no doubt.
            Let me guess, you're another one who was daft enough to place your faith in Pfizer, because - and I'm speculating here - you were far too busy to spare 10 minutes of your precious time researching that company's egregious business practices.

            Here's but one example: Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History
            Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing - https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...nt-its-history

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            • #66
              Re: Oxford Vaccine

              Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
              Presuming your reply was serious, just what was insane about what he wrote?

              This is Fauci speaking in 1999 about the grave dangers of introducing a new vaccine too quickly.

              Fauci advocates getting vaccinated against covid but you’d rather watch a video from 2009 about something else

              Makes sense

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              • #67
                Re: Oxford Vaccine

                Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
                Fauci advocates getting vaccinated against covid but you’d rather watch a video from 2009 about something else

                Makes sense
                In 1999 he was very aware how carefully a new vaccine must be introduced for its effects to be studied over a number of years. He abandoned that reasoning in 2020. Now he advocates giving it to those as young as six months old for an alleged disease that has contributed to the deaths of fewer than 1 per every thousand of the world's population in almost three years.

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                • #68
                  Re: Oxford Vaccine

                  Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
                  Let me guess, you're another one who was daft enough to place your faith in Pfizer, because - and I'm speculating here - you were far too busy to spare 10 minutes of your precious time researching that company's egregious business practices.

                  Here's but one example: Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History
                  Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing - https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...nt-its-history
                  Let me guess. You trust Fauci in that 18 second clip. But not once over the past 2.5 years because he’s an agent of the Great Reset?

                  You believe your 10 minutes of research are worth more than the countless tens of thousands of top healthcare officials from countries all across the world that have both extensive and first hand experience in the development of the vaccine and have vouched for its effectiveness and safety.

                  Of course all of their knowledge is instantly inadmissible because the corporate marketing wing of Pfizer broke the law in 2005.

                  That’s like blaming Puma for the rebrand because they made the red kits.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Oxford Vaccine

                    Every fan of depopulation was extremely eager for people to volunteer for what they promoted was a life saving injection. Why would they - isn't that counter-intuitive? Shouldn't they have instead warned of the dangers of taking something that had no long-term safety data so that more would die to ease the strain on the earth's depleting resources that they also say they care so deeply about?

                    I was suspicious of the prevailing narrative because of what's above, and a great deal more so when it became plain that politicians in alliance with corporate media and health authorities were deliberately concealing the fact that the manufacturers of their 'safe and effective' products demanded, and were granted, complete immunity from court proceedings for any deaths or injuries which resulted from volunteering for a jab.

                    That strategy was so effective that I've still yet to speak to a volunteer who was aware Pfizer and co enjoyed total indemnity.

                    By doing so they were in direct contravention of the Nuremberg Code which emphasises the protocol of informed consent, and they remain so because Moderna does as well for this latest shot in the UK.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Oxford Vaccine

                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      That was just what was needed when the NHS was about to collapse with wards full, staff exhausted and new Covid patients stacked up in ambulances or taxis outside hospitals. Just hold on for 5 or 10 years whilst we check out some of the lesser side effects!
                      I was there during the darkest hours and it was quite an experience.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Oxford Vaccine

                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        I don’t think having booster after booster is effective especially when most of the healthy population have antibodies.( I’m excluding the obese and people with underlying health issues)
                        Thanks for you thoughts. I know a professor of tropical diseases, a senior doctor who is heavily involved in things Covid, two retired GP's, a senior nurse who ran a Covid ward, a trainee nurse who have worked on Covid wards and another nurse who specialises in viruses - and none of them go along with the conspiracy theorists on here.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Oxford Vaccine

                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          I dont get paid to make those decisions however, I would have followed Sweden’s pathway if I wanted to please the majority of the population, and let the rest make their own risk assessment, knowing full well they would only suffer mild to moderate symptoms akin to many other coronaviruses
                          Compared to Finland and Norway, the 2 most similar countries to Sweden, Covid was much worse for Sweden than their neighbours.

                          Their death rate is double that of Finland and triple that of Norway’s.

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                          • #73
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                            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                            Thanks for you thoughts. I know a professor of tropical diseases, a senior doctor who is heavily involved in things Covid, two retired GP's, a senior nurse who ran a Covid ward, a trainee nurse who have worked on Covid wards and another nurse who specialises in viruses - and none of them go along with the conspiracy theorists on here.
                            Now it's turning into a who's got the biggest cock contest I know professors of epidemiology at Oxford, Harvard and Stanford who disagree with your nurses.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Oxford Vaccine

                              Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                              If it came again , we protect the sick and the vulnerable, nobody’s disputing that as far as I’m aware.

                              What I disagree with is the fact they locked people down who didn’t need to have their freedoms curtailed and people were happy with that, clearly it’s a big deal.
                              **** freedom!

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                              • #75
                                Re: Oxford Vaccine

                                I know a binman a brickie a hooker and a bookie none of them has taken the #clotshot
                                each of them wanting to live to an age where they get to see their grandchildren.


                                For nothing is secret that shall not be made manifest,
                                neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come abroad
                                GOD Wins
                                Clandestine

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