Jeremy Hunt

[Dorcus]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Blaming the faults of Brexit on remainers wanting to overturn the vote is a funny one. The Tories have had a majority power for the whole time since we’ve left the EU. Every opposing MP could piss and shit all over Westminster as a form of protest and the Tories could still do whatever they wanted in regards to Brexit.

The mass movement of migrants was allegedly solved by Brexit. If it hasn’t been, that’s the fault of the Tories. As a cynic I think having a “migrant crisis” is a net positive for the Tories. They have a scapegoat demographic to target and can look like their busy fixing it whilst doing very little.

If it's one thing the Tories excel at it's brainwashing. Boy they are the best; it keeps them in power.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

I know bloody crazy, they have a had such a soft era :

No financial market crash with banks going to the wall .

No pandemic that saw billions spent to save jobs and lives.

No Brexit and the attempts by many to overturn a democratic vote eating up government planning.

No mass movement of migrants .

No loopy USA Presidents swaying the markets .

No war in Europe effecting food and energy.

Excuses

Your mob

12 years

Of course when Labour were faced with a worldwide financial meltdown .........you fully understood ......which is why your Tories backed the rescue plan

Then when the general election came along .....forgot 🙄

[jon1959]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Markets 1 Government 0 want a game of two half's , government couldn't handle their physicality ..

With the goal scored straight from the kick off when Truss turned the ball into her own net.

Yes and I think one of the quickest ever seen ,since this start of the crazy season , could be facing relegation ..

In dire need of the new manager bounce

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/oct/18/david-squires-on-tactics-truss-and-whitehall-fc-slide-towards-trap-door

[Feedback]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

If it's one thing the Tories excel at it's brainwashing. Boy they are the best; it keeps them in power.

Good grief. There's one thing having courage in your convictions, there's another suggesting those who don't share your world view have been brainwashed.

You're a rather conceited narcissist.

[Dorcus]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Good grief. There's one thing having courage in your convictions, there's another suggesting those who don't share your world view have been brainwashed.

You're a rather conceited narcissist.

Heavens, so says the most conceited fool on the board, what a laugh!

You're clearly not a psychologist.

I'm not aware of any narcissistic personality traits I possess. I haven't an inflated ego (but guess who has!). I certainly do not lack empathy and have no need for attention. Neither do I suffer any repressed insecurities that I'm aware of. Is this just the latest epithet you've suddenly come across and thought you'd show off by using it on a football message board?

And all this from a troubled reactionary!

[JamesWales]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Dorcus, why are Conservative voters more likely to be brainwashed than Labour?

My Dad has voted for different parties over the years. My mum, resolutely will always, always vote Labour. Conversations about the economy or policies are irrelevant. She will always vote Labour. I wouldn't call her brainwashed at all, but she certainly thinks far less about it than my Dad ever did.

[Dorcus]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Dorcus, why are Conservative voters more likely to be brainwashed than Labour?

My Dad has voted for different parties over the years. My mum, resolutely will always, always vote Labour. Conversations about the economy or policies are irrelevant. She will always vote Labour. I wouldn't call her brainwashed at all, but she certainly thinks far less about it than my Dad ever did.

James I'm not sufficiently medically qualified to answer your question I'm afraid. My hunch is it's mainly because of the lavish spending the Tories are fortunate enough to be able to regularly allocate to their propaganda campaign.

My mother would never have dreamt of voting anything but Tory. I disagreed with her wholeheartedly but accepted she had an unshakeable belief in Tory values which from my point of view never offered her anything in life apart from some internal vindication and solace.

My father on the other hand readily admitted he had no real interest in politics beyond naked self interest, and flipped political support regularly. I thought less of him for it even though he usually voted anything but Tory.

It's just my personal belief that if the vast number of floating voters really bothered to study the philosophies of all political parties in much more depth we would end up with far less floating voters.

[superfeathers]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Dorcus, why are Conservative voters more likely to be brainwashed than Labour?

My Dad has voted for different parties over the years. My mum, resolutely will always, always vote Labour. Conversations about the economy or policies are irrelevant. She will always vote Labour. I wouldn't call her brainwashed at all, but she certainly thinks far less about it than my Dad ever did.

Just observing in from the fence here. I'd say that conservative voters are brainwashed in that they sloganeer, they use the press very cleverly, they create enemies for the public and cause issues to distract, see immigrants as an example. The AGC was a really poor attempt, because it's caught on in a comedic rather than serious way. They brainwash the middle classes that they're the party for them, although it's actually only the richest in society who benefit.

There are so many voters in Wales and the North like your mum. In a way they've been brainwashed, but by the Conservatives. They've been brainwashed through experience that they can't trust them. Nothing good can come from them. It's the people who will call them Tory scum and so on. Those who got treated so badly and had industries destroyed and walked over many years ago, won't forgive or forget.

I'd vote labour because I've got too much of a social conscience to vote for this lot. I don't feel brainwashed, but I guess if I am, then I wouldn't know!

[Feedback]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Heavens, so says the most conceited fool on the board, what a laugh!

You're clearly not a psychologist.

I'm not aware of any narcissistic personality traits I possess. I haven't an inflated ego (but guess who has!). I certainly do not lack empathy and have no need for attention. Neither do I suffer any repressed insecurities that I'm aware of. Is this just the latest epithet you've suddenly come across and thought you'd show off by using it on a football message board?

And all this from a troubled reactionary!

There's so much to unpack here, but one
point more evident than anything else is your diatribe is nothing more than a smokescreen designed to obfuscate the point being made.

People support parties for a variety of reasons. There's no right or wrong, as by and large it's based the individuals life experiences and expectations.

I suppose we can add delusional to your list of character traits

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Good grief. There's one thing having courage in your convictions, there's another suggesting those who don't share your world view have been brainwashed.

You're a rather conceited narcissist.

It's not brainwashing

It's lying

Truss has been at it already and she's only just started !

Tosspots

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

There's so much to unpack here, but one
point more evident than anything else is your diatribe is nothing more than a smokescreen designed to obfuscate the point being made.

People support parties for a variety of reasons. There's no right or wrong, as by and large it's based the individuals life experiences and expectations.

I suppose we can add delusional to your list of character traits

In the old days the Tories had some one nation , old school moderates

Hague , Clarke , Major , Hurd

But those sort of Tories are long gone

Tories and tory voters are about themselves . They don't care about society and all this personal responsibility bollocks is a cover for
self self self

The Tories have completely crapped on those that voted for them in the north . I will be amazed if these people stick with them again . If they do then I won't have any sympathy for them whatsoever. The Tories look after their own . You can become one of them if you are successful but if you are poor or vulnerable you can feck off .

Why is it that people who work with the less fortunate almost always refuse to vote for them ?

[Dorcus]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

There's so much to unpack here, but one
point more evident than anything else is your diatribe is nothing more than a smokescreen designed to obfuscate the point being made.

People support parties for a variety of reasons. There's no right or wrong, as by and large it's based the individuals life experiences and expectations.

I suppose we can add delusional to your list of character traits

Delusional lol!!! A bit pissed off because we fell for the propaganda are we? I have sympathy for you.

[life on mars]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Delusional lol!!! A bit pissed off because we fell for the propaganda are we? I have sympathy for you.

Lets be honest if we had a perfect country under the Tories you'd still hate or envy them and there supporters .

I know both Labour and Tory voters all working class all nice people however one can tell one side is more bitter and narrow of thought that the others .... the Tory voters mainly work in the private manual type work sector, the Labour lads are mainly in the public sector or ex public sector roles .

Lets see what Labour does in power with the world situations adversely effect markets that UK families are effected by , not just the UK 's decisions its the worlds that control matters ..

Tories will keep the triple lock so yer all okay

[ninian opinian]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Lets be honest if we had a perfect country under the Tories you'd still hate or envy them and there supporters .

I know both Labour and Tory voters all working class all nice people however one can tell one side is more bitter and narrow of thought that the others .... the Tory voters mainly work in the private manual type work sector, the Labour lads are mainly in the public sector or ex public sector roles .

Lets see what Labour does in power with the world situations adversely effect markets that UK families are effected by , not just the UK 's decisions its the worlds that control matters ..

Tories will keep the triple lock so yer all okay

Let’s look at what labour did when they were in power last https://twitter.com/creativecamden/s...zLiwX5ehDITX7w

Surely even you with your one eye can see the shite state this country is in. Food banks everywhere, poverty everywhere, NHS and public services on their knees. The economy destroyed by an ideological mad woman. A winter of discontent, Jesus I could go on and on and on.

And please don’t come back with but labour but the war but the pandemic. This country was on its knees before all of these events happened.

Don’t be sick, don’t be poor and don’t lose your job.

General election now!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Jeremy Hunt

Lets be honest if we had a perfect country under the Tories you'd still hate or envy them and there supporters .

I know both Labour and Tory voters all working class all nice people however one can tell one side is more bitter and narrow of thought that the others .... the Tory voters mainly work in the private manual type work sector, the Labour lads are mainly in the public sector or ex public sector roles .

Lets see what Labour does in power with the world situations adversely effect markets that UK families are effected by , not just the UK 's decisions its the worlds that control matters ..

Tories will keep the triple lock so yer all okay

They have announced they won't according to James cleverly on radio 5 this morning