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  • #31
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    Who's in charge now?

    Liz Truss commits to the pension triple lock 2 days after Hunt says they're not making any commitments on individual policies?

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by life on mars View Post
      Lets be honest if we had a perfect country under the Tories you'd still hate or envy them and there supporters .

      I know both Labour and Tory voters all working class all nice people however one can tell one side is more bitter and narrow of thought that the others .... the Tory voters mainly work in the private manual type work sector, the Labour lads are mainly in the public sector or ex public sector roles .

      Lets see what Labour does in power with the world situations adversely effect markets that UK families are effected by , not just the UK 's decisions its the worlds that control matters ..

      Tories will keep the triple lock so yer all okay
      'Let's be honest' would be a change.... but as usual that bit is missing.

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by ninian opinian View Post
        Let’s look at what labour did when they were in power last https://twitter.com/creativecamden/s...zLiwX5ehDITX7w

        Surely even you with your one eye can see the shite state this country is in. Food banks everywhere, poverty everywhere, NHS and public services on their knees. The economy destroyed by an ideological mad woman. A winter of discontent, Jesus I could go on and on and on.

        And please don’t come back with but labour but the war but the pandemic. This country was on its knees before all of these events happened.

        Don’t be sick, don’t be poor and don’t lose your job.

        General election now!
        When I read that list initially I thought it was someone being ironic. Call out a number and we'll have a look at the reality behind the headline.

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by life on mars View Post
          Lets be honest if we had a perfect country under the Tories you'd still hate or envy them and there supporters .

          I know both Labour and Tory voters all working class all nice people however one can tell one side is more bitter and narrow of thought that the others .... the Tory voters mainly work in the private manual type work sector, the Labour lads are mainly in the public sector or ex public sector roles .

          Lets see what Labour does in power with the world situations adversely effect markets that UK families are effected by , not just the UK 's decisions its the worlds that control matters ..

          Tories will keep the triple lock so yer all okay
          So when do you expect a perfect country under the Tories? Please let us know as soon as it's on its way.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            They have announced they won't according to James cleverly on radio 5 this morning
            Truss just u turned on that yet again but I'm not sure she has the authority to make that decision. We await what her boss Jeremy has to say about it.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              With the goal scored straight from the kick off when Truss turned the ball into her own net.
              They are all puppets, somebody else is pulling their strings.

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
                Just observing in from the fence here. I'd say that conservative voters are brainwashed in that they sloganeer, they use the press very cleverly, they create enemies for the public and cause issues to distract, see immigrants as an example. The AGC was a really poor attempt, because it's caught on in a comedic rather than serious way. They brainwash the middle classes that they're the party for them, although it's actually only the richest in society who benefit.

                There are so many voters in Wales and the North like your mum. In a way they've been brainwashed, but by the Conservatives. They've been brainwashed through experience that they can't trust them. Nothing good can come from them. It's the people who will call them Tory scum and so on. Those who got treated so badly and had industries destroyed and walked over many years ago, won't forgive or forget.

                I'd vote labour because I've got too much of a social conscience to vote for this lot. I don't feel brainwashed, but I guess if I am, then I wouldn't know!
                Ah yes, the social conscience of the typical Labour voter.

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                • #38
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                  Let's just be clear - no set of voters for any party is universally brainwashed. Some are more loyal than others, some have different reasons for voting how they do, some for ideological, personal, social reasons. And most will vote for a party for a different reason than someone else voters against them.

                  Language like brainwashing is the kind of stuff Sunni and Shias throw around at eachother in the middle east. It's simply not the case, and for every opinion or piece of flimsy evidence suggesting it, there is equal evidence on the other side.

                  Sometimes, we have to accept, we all have different opinions and it's as simple as that

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                  • #39
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                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    Let's just be clear - no set of voters for any party is universally brainwashed. Some are more loyal than others, some have different reasons for voting how they do, some for ideological, personal, social reasons. And most will vote for a party for a different reason than someone else voters against them.

                    Language like brainwashing is the kind of stuff Sunni and Shias throw around at eachother in the middle east. It's simply not the case, and for every opinion or piece of flimsy evidence suggesting it, there is equal evidence on the other side.

                    Sometimes, we have to accept, we all have different opinions and it's as simple as that
                    I noted there were a lot of Manchurian Candidates in the last Tory intake.

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                    • #40
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                      Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                      Delusional lol!!! A bit pissed off because we fell for the propaganda are we? I have sympathy for you.
                      Propaganda? less use of hyperbole wouldn't go amiss.

                      who are you again?

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by DryCleaning View Post
                        Propaganda? less use of hyperbole wouldn't go amiss.

                        who are you again?
                        No I'm not Hyperborean; I thought he was one of your alter egos

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                          No I'm not Hyperborean; I thought he was one of your alter egos
                          I asked who you are? If you struggle to comprehend even the simplest of questions then perhaps the more nuanced politics threads are beyond you.

                          Maybe you could try the favourite crisps thread

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by DryCleaning View Post
                            I asked who you are? If you struggle to comprehend even the simplest of questions then perhaps the more nuanced politics threads are beyond you.

                            Maybe you could try the favourite crisps thread
                            I understood your question very well thank you but who the hell are you to ask? Still smarting from swallowing the propaganda are we?

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                              I understood your question very well thank you but who the hell are you to ask? Still smarting from swallowing the propaganda are we?
                              If you understood my question you masked your comprehension very well. You're as bad as TOBW when he says he can't understand how anyone can vote Tory. The lack of empathy and appreciation that some have to those who may have a different world view than your own says more about you and them than anything else.

                              People vote for different parties for a variety of reasons. If you can't countenance that then you're not really capable of the independent thought that you think you are.

                              This is repetitive, so feel free to have the last word.

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by DryCleaning View Post
                                If you understood my question you masked your comprehension very well. You're as bad as TOBW when he says he can't understand how anyone can vote Tory. The lack of empathy and appreciation that some have to those who may have a different world view than your own says more about you and them than anything else.

                                People vote for different parties for a variety of reasons. If you can't countenance that then you're not really capable of the independent thought that you think you are.

                                This is repetitive, so feel free to have the last word.
                                In any democracy there are always people who won't vote for a certain party - the people who are currently still telling opinion polls that they will vote Tory are certain to include a fair proportion, probably a majority, who would never vote Labour.

                                I see the current Prime Minister appears to be going through one of her chameleon like changes of beliefs this week which is not a good look for someone in her position. For us mere mortals though, if a person lives the whole of their adult life believing in a certain set of principles, where's the problem? I'm proud never to have voted Conservative and, unless, something even more barmy than what we've seen over the last six years happens, I will go to my grave never having voted for them.

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