We really should have a General Election.

[superfeathers]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Well ask Labour to call for a vote in the house of commons they say they are ready and their manifesto sounds like a winner ,anyone got a copy they post up

While it wouldn’t make sense to have a manifesto out there two years ahead of an election, they can just piece a load of rubbish together as long as it’s what people want to hear. No one will be worried about going down a different route entirely once they’re in power, they could just change the leader

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Were you one of the thick voters conned by Blair and his illegal neo con wars?

No

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Were you one of the thick voters conned by Blair and his illegal neo con wars?

Were you one of the thick voters that was conned by Farage and voted to leave EU or were you one of the thick voters that thought Fat arsehole liar Boris J was a good PM..or are you one of the thick voters that thought Liz truss was a going to save the UK from economic disaster?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Were you one of the thick voters that was conned by Farage and voted to leave EU or were you one of the thick voters that thought Fat arsehole liar Boris J was a good PM..or are you one of the thick voters that thought Liz truss was a going to save the UK from economic disaster?

He's a feckin tory so he is all three

[Clandestine]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

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[Dorcus]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

He's a feckin tory so he is all three

Watch out he's A dolf again. Says it all.

[JamesWales]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Were you one of the thick voters that was conned by Farage and voted to leave EU or were you one of the thick voters that thought Fat arsehole liar Boris J was a good PM..or are you one of the thick voters that thought Liz truss was a going to save the UK from economic disaster?

Were you one of the thick voters who thought calling people thick voters would help you win elections only to lose several of them in a row but still adopt the same tactic?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Were you one of the thick voters who thought calling people thick voters would help you win elections only to lose several of them in a row but still adopt the same tactic?

So why does it appear these voters who fell for the nonsense put out and voted for it in places where European aid was vital ......appear to be turning against the Tories and supporting Labour in huge numbers ?

[JamesWales]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

So why does it appear these voters who fell for the nonsense put out and voted for it in places where European aid was vital ......appear to be turning against the Tories and supporting Labour in huge numbers ?

Did they fall for the nonsense, or did you? Who knows.

EU aid is a tiny proportion of what is spent by central government in the same areas. There is an argument it achieved very little of substance and the UK paid far more into the EU than it received, so there is a strong argument that it was a very inefficient way to spend and receive money.

Just different opinions. No one side was thick and the other enlightened. To think such a simplistic thing would likely put someone in the former of those camps anyway.

[HyperboreanCCFC]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Were you one of the thick voters that was conned by Farage and voted to leave EU or were you one of the thick voters that thought Fat arsehole liar Boris J was a good PM..or are you one of the thick voters that thought Liz truss was a going to save the UK from economic disaster?

Farage wasn't a Tory, How did he con voters?
I have my own reasons for disliking Boris and have long been disillusioned with the current political landscape/setup. Boris isn't Conservative enough for me. Why was Boris a bad PM for you? A few parties at number 10 that he barely attended?
Liz Truss's economic policy may well prove the correct call in the medium term, i think you're guilty of letting international (((bankers))) tell you who is electable.

[JamesWales]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Farage wasn't a Tory, How did he con voters?
I have my own reasons for disliking Boris and have long been disillusioned with the current political landscape/setup. Boris isn't Conservative enough for me. Why was Boris a bad PM for you? A few parties at number 10 that he barely attended?
Liz Truss's economic policy may well prove the correct call in the medium term, i think you're guilty of letting international (((bankers))) tell you who is electable.

I must admit, the joy some people are expressing at letting international currency and bond markets dictate policy is an interesting one for some left-wing people to adopt. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's interesting.

[lardy]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Just in case anyone doesn't know, three brackets around a word is anti Semitic code to label it as Jewish. It originated in a neo-nazi blog.

Also, perhaps interesting to some, hypoboreans were a mythical group of Aryans that the Nazis became rather enamoured by.

Anyway, back to the thread...

[jon1959]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

I must admit, the joy some people are expressing at letting international currency and bond markets dictate policy is an interesting one for some left-wing people to adopt. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's interesting.

From what I can see and read it is not joy that the markets 'dictate policy' but that the Z list Tory government made it happen.

It is joy at the exposure, the burst bubble, the embarrassment, the meltdown, the comeupance - the inability of a Tory government to manage capitalism - their major USP.

No one it taking any joy from the consequences of this cluster****!

[Feedback]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Okay, when a PM changes (e.g. Blair to Brown or Cameron to May) there shouldn't be an automatic General Election, but when you're talking about Johnson to Truss as we get a fourth Prime Minister within just over sic years (with every chance of a fifth one soon it would appear) it becomes different -although two of them won overall majorities at subsequent elections, having the last three PMs foisted on us by a tiny percentage of the electorate is not right.

Also, although I've never been a reader of party manifestos, I would expect what the Government does after an election to broadly resemble what appeared in their manifesto. I'd imagine that people voted Tory in 2019 expecting Johnson to "get Brexit done" and to see the "levelling up" programme implemented. In fact, Brexit is far from done when you consider the position in Northern Ireland and, surprise, surprise levelling up has just proved to be a lot of Johnson style hot air and bluster.

However, the main reason we should have an election is that, in the past few months, we've seen the "election" of a PM who attracted the votes of a minority of Tory MPs and party members entitled to vote whose approach was revolutionary and nothing like the version of Conservatism set out in the 2019 manifesto. Similarly, with the demise and humiliation of the Truss/Kwarteng axis, we're now, it seems, due for yet more austerity - again, can anyone show me where that was promised in the 2019 manifesto?

In the past month, Government financial policy has switched from one extreme to the other, with neither programme bearing much relationship to to what the voters of the UK were offered in the Conservative Party manifesto - they did not have a mandate for Truss' trickle down bollox and they don't have one for more years of austerity.

We do not operate a presidential system in the UK - we operate a parliamentary system whereby parliament chooses the prime minister. I would have thought you would have known that. From your post it would appear you don't understand the basics on how our democracy functions.

Just to be clear, the electorate choose Parliament, and Parliament chooses the PM - the leader who controls the House. That's the way it has always been.

Despite Truss being a busted flush, I can't see the Tories calling a GE as quite a few know they will lose their seats.

[HyperboreanCCFC]

Re: We really should have a General Election.

Just in case anyone doesn't know, three brackets around a word is anti Semitic code to label it as Jewish. It originated in a neo-nazi blog.

Also, perhaps interesting to some, hypoboreans were a mythical group of Aryans that the Nazis became rather enamoured by.

Anyway, back to the thread...

Holy shit... 😆
Just incase anyone doesn't know lardy is completely paranoid and probably suspects there is literal nazis under his bed.
Hyperborean was the term the ancient Greeks used to describe a mythical people of the North. I'm part Greek and from the North, so that's that lardy fallacy debunked.

Brackets are anti semetic now are they? Wow I'm lost for words, (((really)))

You're doing a good job of defending international finance lardy, keep it up, they'll be most proud of you. From their super yachts in Monaco.