Back Frack or Sack

[Eric Cartman]

Yeah I stole that title.

Has a government ever whipped it's MPs to vote against a manifesto pledge before?

[Dorcus]

Re: Back Frack or Sack

Yeah I stole that title.

Has a government ever whipped it's MPs to vote against a manifesto pledge before?

It's quite astonishing. Makes good soap opera though. 🍿

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Back Frack or Sack

Yeah I stole that title.

Has a government ever whipped it's MPs to vote against a manifesto pledge before?

I’ve never been a fan, but, until fairly recently I had a grudging respect for them as a formidable political machine with a discipline among its MPs that other parties could only dream about - what’s happened?

[Wales-Bales]

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I’ve never been a fan, but, until fairly recently I had a grudging respect for them as a formidable political machine with a discipline among its MPs that other parties could only dream about - what’s happened?

Every local candidate is vetted by the central office, so I would assume they are all still following orders.

[the other bob wilson]

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Every local candidate is vetted by the central office, so I would assume they are all still following orders.

Well, you’re always telling us we’re not getting the real message on no end of subjects debated on here - I’d love to know your explanation as to what the plan has been with the Conservative party in the last few weeks.

[Eric Cartman]

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Turns out it was back frack or get ****ed up by the whips.

Given the reports, appears to be that the government got spooked, told the whips to step it up a notch, chief whip said **** no cya later and violence ensued.

What scenes, surely she is a gonner after this.

[The Bloop]

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I loved the UK version of House of Cards years ago. These shenanigans are even beyond that and that was fiction apparently.

[JamesWales]

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I’ve never been a fan, but, until fairly recently I had a grudging respect for them as a formidable political machine with a discipline among its MPs that other parties could only dream about - what’s happened?

It's extraordinary.

Probably a majority that was too big, the pandemic, losing Boris, the war, choosing the wrong leader, the reckless budget..

It's incredible what is happening at the moment. I thought calls for her to go were preposterous a few days ago. Now I can totally understand them

[Hilts]

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You just wonder what they will feck up next.

[superfeathers]

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You just wonder what they will feck up next.

She’s got to go, it’s a question of time, surely!
At what point do enough of their members say we need a general election? I know it’ll be turkeys voting for Christmas but they’re embarrassing themselves and surely the country means something to them

[JamesWales]

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I wonder what the protocol would be on Liz Truss resigning and handing over to Rishi Sunak and perhaps the commitment of a GE within a year or whatever?

I'm not saying that will happen or would be morally acceptable (although I would be okay with it). I just mean in the sense that if someone resigns from a job theyve taken, the job is often given to whomever wasnt first offered it?

There must be some kind of protocol in place?

[superfeathers]

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I wonder what the protocol would be on Liz Truss resigning and handing over to Rishi Sunak and perhaps the commitment of a GE within a year or whatever?

I'm not saying that will happen or would be morally acceptable (although I would be okay with it). I just mean in the sense that if someone resigns from a job theyve taken, the job is often given to whomever wasnt first offered it?

There must be some kind of protocol in place?

I may be way off but I presumed they’d need another leadership battle? So that they eventually get to rishi v loon and then the loon takes charge for a couple of months.

I don’t see how anyone could now take the job and there not be a GE on the cards soon though

[JamesWales]

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I may be way off but I presumed they’d need another leadership battle? So that they eventually get to rishi v loon and then the loon takes charge for a couple of months.

I don’t see how anyone could now take the job and there not be a GE on the cards soon though

Yeah, thats my assumption. But I mean, say Liz Truss got taken seriously ill one day after winning the leadership election or whatever, presumably in that case they would have a parliamentary vote on handing it to whoever came second?

I dunno..

[superfeathers]

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Yeah, thats my assumption. But I mean, say Liz Truss got taken seriously ill one day after winning the leadership election or whatever, presumably in that case they would have a parliamentary vote on handing it to whoever came second?

I dunno..

I guess it would go to the deputy pm until they can find someone capable .. or otherwise ..

[Eric Cartman]

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I wonder what the protocol would be on Liz Truss resigning and handing over to Rishi Sunak and perhaps the commitment of a GE within a year or whatever?

I'm not saying that will happen or would be morally acceptable (although I would be okay with it). I just mean in the sense that if someone resigns from a job theyve taken, the job is often given to whomever wasnt first offered it?

There must be some kind of protocol in place?

With how far behind they seemingly are in the polls why would rishi blow his shot though.

I feel like in that scenario you get maybot as a 'safe pair of hands' although she might be about to lose the whip.