Albania

[JamesWales]

What is going on here? Obviously the standard response is that we cannot question desperate people fleeing war etc, but Albania is peaceful and so is France, so what is going on?

12,000 arrived by boat this year compared to 50 in 2020, (admittedly, covid year), 800 in 2021 and now 12,000 in 2022.

Yet Albania had the same democratically elected socialist government in all of those years. What has changed?

Seems to be a growing understanding that something pretty serious is amiss, with there being a huge back log in cases, an inability to deport and costs of £7m a day to house. More and more stories are leaking out about the situation.

In all seriousness though, for those who claim this is desperate people fleeing and not mass abuse of the system, what has changed in Albania since last year?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/27/albanians-arriving-in-uk-could-get-bespoke-route-for-immigration-cases-to-be-heard

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11357091/Around-10-000-single-adult-men-Albania-illegally-reached-UK-boat-year.html

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Albania

well you fecked up by giving links to the fail and the guardian

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

1000 people landed on saturday.
Migration holding centre firebombed today

Just one weekend making it clear this needs sorting urgently.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Albania

I think we should send them to Rwanda

[Organ Morgan.]

Re: Albania

The Rwanda nonsense is some red meat for the Tory right-wing to gorge on.

Meanwhile, the Tory cabinet, plus the official Opposition along with the minor parties have nowt to say about the Calais to Dover dinghy shuttle service.

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

The Rwanda nonsense is some red meat for the Tory right-wing to gorge on.

Meanwhile, the Tory cabinet, plus the official Opposition along with the minor parties have nowt to say about the Calais to Dover dinghy shuttle service.

Rwanda policy unquestionably is designed as a deterrent not as a serious long term plan to house thousands.

Agree on the second point. People have been warning about this for a long time. I think we have witnessed a mass exploitation of our asylum system and I don't think it will play well with people.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Albania

Rwanda policy unquestionably is designed as a deterrent not as a serious long term plan to house thousands.

How is that going?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Albania

Remind me, are the UK Government all for immigration this week or are we still sending them to Rwanda?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Albania

If this continues for much longer, I'm going to be thinking about fleeing to Albania.

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

How is that going?

It hasn't happened Eric. Lawyers intervened. Now we are housing and feeding 40,000 people this year alone, many of whom it would seem come from a peaceful democratic country.

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

Remind me, are the UK Government all for immigration this week or are we still sending them to Rwanda?

All for legal, controlled immigration I believe Bob. :thumbup:

[Dorcus]

Re: Albania

It hasn't happened Eric. Lawyers intervened. Now we are housing and feeding 40,000 people this year alone, many of whom it would seem come from a peaceful democratic country.

That's great news; they should help to fill the shortage of labour.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Albania

It hasn't happened Eric. Lawyers intervened. Now we are housing and feeding 40,000 people this year alone, many of whom it would seem come from a peaceful democratic country.

It's almost like when everybody was telling you it was bluster, not a serious policy, illegal and unworkable, they were right.

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

That's great news; they should help to fill the shortage of labour.

Good story. I prefer Jack and beanstalk though.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Albania

James, if you can determine that these people have no claim to asylum (and I'm inclined to go along with that in the most part) then why does it take the government so long to do what's required and send them back to Albania?

In the background you work on a diplomatic long term solution with France and Albania and problem solved (which it seems this week's version of the Tory party is at least partially trying now)

Or you waste an entire term in government focusing on a cost unknown unworkable immoral policy to send all illegal immigrants to Rwanda.