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[TWGL1]

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I'll give you the same answer I gave you the last time you replied to me (thanks for taking me off ignore btw!)

Why don't you take this up with lifeonmars? He's the one claiming to know kids still off school because they're scared of covid. If you're worried about child welfare, get him to do something about it (he won't, as he's making it up).

Otherwise, it just looks like you're sniping a poster you don't like.

I don’t know you to dislike , I don’t agree with a few of your posts but you’re anonymous, so I can’t dislike you:

[Wales-Bales]

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I don’t know you to dislike , I don’t agree with a few of your posts but you’re anonymous, so I can’t dislike you:

I quite like Lardy, but one thing I noticed is he never learns from his mistakes, and he jumps onto the next topic without refining any of his thought processes. Russia collusion was a classic, he never questioned how he got it so wrong, instead he just carried on using the same sources of information as though noting had happened!

[the other bob wilson]

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I quite like Lardy, but one thing I noticed is he never learns from his mistakes, and he jumps onto the next topic without refining any of his thought processes. Russia collusion was a classic, he never questioned how he got it so wrong, instead he just carried on using the same sources of information as though noting had happened!

You on the other hand have never been wrong about anything

[Canton Kev]

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You on the other hand have never been wrong about anything

I feel like I’m in the Truman Show and a new director has asked for the cast crank up the irony. This thread has been bombarded with some hilarious takes.

[Wales-Bales]

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I feel like I’m in the Truman Show and a new director has asked for the cast crank up the irony. This thread has been bombarded with some hilarious takes.

You really are living in a simulation, you just haven't worked it out yet!

[TWGL1]

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You really are living in a simulation, you just haven't worked it out yet!

Some people will never work it out , fine, but others have a right to question , and always will.

[Canton Kev]

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You really are living in a simulation, you just haven't worked it out yet!

K hun x
Let me know when you work it out, unless I see Organ’s cryptic post about it before you do.

[Wales-Bales]

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K hun x
Let me know when you work it out, unless I see Organ’s cryptic post about it before you do.

Do you believe in God?

[Canton Kev]

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Do you believe in God?

Nope

[Wales-Bales]

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Nope

Have you analysed what religion is, the role it plays, the effect it had/has on society, and the reason why you don't believe the narrative?

[Canton Kev]

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Have you analysed what religion is, the role it plays, the effect it had/has on society, and the reason why you don't believe the narrative?

Religion and conspiracies aren’t comparable though. Someone who believes in god or gods can’t prove their existence. And as a non believer I can’t prove them wrong. Religion is all about faith and opinions. Both believing in it and not believing it.

Someone arguing the world is flat can be disproven with evidence that it’s actually round.

Someone who doesn’t believe in climate change can be shown increases in temperature, higher levels of CO2, lesser ice coverage, etc.

As this thread started out, I believe the summer heatwave was the main cause of abnormally high deaths because there is data that shows more people died on the hotter days.

I believe the universe began with the Big Bang. There’s evidence and science to back up the theory that the Big Bang occurred. There’s nothing to prove or disprove if the Big Bang itself was a naturally occurring event or if a higher power willed it to happen. All I have is faith in my judgment there isn’t a god.

[TWGL1]

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Religion and conspiracies aren’t comparable though. Someone who believes in god or gods can’t prove their existence. And as a non believer I can’t prove them wrong. Religion is all about faith and opinions. Both believing in it and not believing it.

Someone arguing the world is flat can be disproven with evidence that it’s actually round.

Someone who doesn’t believe in climate change can be shown increases in temperature, higher levels of CO2, lesser ice coverage, etc.

As this thread started out, I believe the summer heatwave was the main cause of abnormally high deaths because there is data that shows more people died on the hotter days.

I believe the universe began with the Big Bang. There’s evidence and science to back up the theory that the Big Bang occurred. There’s nothing to prove or disprove if the Big Bang itself was a naturally occurring event or if a higher power willed it to happen. All I have is faith in my judgment there isn’t a god.

| In the past 25 weeks we have had 13,514 more deaths than we would expect for the time of year if the chance of dying was the same as pre-pandemic.

�� Latest 4 weeks, deaths were 8.8%, or 3,730 deaths higher than what you would expect based on pre-pandemic death rates.

Looking at deaths from all causes, over the past 25 weeks deaths are above expectation for all age groups, except those aged 10-14.

The largest percentages above expectation are those aged 35 to 59.

Younger have fewer deaths so small fluctuations can impact percentages.

Excluding deaths where Covid is mentioned on the death certificate we see that there are fewer deaths than you would expect among those aged 75 to 89.

The highest % of deaths above average with Covid not mentioned on the death certificate are those aged 45 to 54.
Not sure if that’s heat related?
Link here

https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1589958597177315328?s=61&t=D8rTcmZ6c-5U91svMN4fjQ

[Canton Kev]

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Not sure how that’s relevant to what I said but okay.

Again, as I said before, heat isn’t the only thing that kills people. However during an abnormally hot month we had an abnormally high number of deaths. Abnormally high deaths that peaked in line with the abnormally high temperature peaking too.
Do you not think the extra deaths during the summer should be attributed to the heatwave?

As mentioned previously in the thread, the NHS isn’t operating anywhere close to its pre pandemic efficiency or quality. I’ve not got the numbers but if I recall, we haven’t had a single month below the pre pandemic excess deaths rate since early 2020.

[TWGL1]

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Not sure how that’s relevant to what I said but okay.

Again, as I said before, heat isn’t the only thing that kills people. However during an abnormally hot month we had an abnormally high number of deaths. Abnormally high deaths that peaked in line with the abnormally high temperature peaking too.
Do you not think the extra deaths during the summer should be attributed to the heatwave?

As mentioned previously in the thread, the NHS isn’t operating anywhere close to its pre pandemic efficiency or quality. I’ve not got the numbers but if I recall, we haven’t had a single month below the pre pandemic excess deaths rate since early 2020.

In the summer I’m sure the heat would have attributed to a higher dearth rate than a cooler summer , absolutely, but the link posted suggests other mitigating factors, what’s your view on them particularly ages 45-54.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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In the summer I’m sure the heat would have attributed to a higher dearth rate than a cooler summer , absolutely, but the link posted suggests other mitigating factors, what’s your view on them particularly ages 45-54.

Here is the statistical information that your twitter source has reinterpreted.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYmUwNmFhMjYtNGZhYS00NDk2LWFlMTAtOTg0OGNhNmFiNGM0IiwidCI6ImVlNGUxNDk5LTRhMzUtNGIyZS1hZDQ3LTVmM2NmOWRlODY2NiIsImMiOjh9

Page 3 shows the path of excess deaths by week during the last few years. You can filter it by age group and sex. It shows massive peaks which triggered lockdowns which massively reduced and then for a period took those deaths below seasonal norms.

These are for England but these patterns are similar for all the countries which reacted to exponential growths in deaths before vaccines were widely available on the advice of their medical experts.

Believe what you want about how the virus was managed, including thinking it was mostly like a cold for most (in all it's mutations presumably) but the data paints a different picture on its virulence across the age groups at its height.