China

[Wales-Bales]

People are upset because some people were burnt to death after being welded inside their apartments during an extended lockdown.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/26/china/china-protests-xinjiang-fire-shanghai-intl-hnk/index.html

[Wales-Bales]

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What do the lockdown fanatics think? Was it a price worth paying for the greater good?

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/11/25/china-xinjiang-building-fire-covid-anger-wang-contd-nr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/

[the other bob wilson]

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What do the lockdown fanatics think? Was it a price worth paying for the greater good?

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...und-the-world/

Who are these “lockdown fanatics”? Are there still people out there saying we should all lockdown? If there are, I agree - they’re fanatics. If, on the other hand, you mean those who could understand why the decision to lock down was made at various times during 2020 and early 2021 when Covid was killing millions and there were no vaccines, then I think you’re talking rubbish.

[Wales-Bales]

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Who are these “lockdown fanatics”? Are there still people out there saying we should all lockdown? If there are, I agree - they’re fanatics. If, on the other hand, you mean those who could understand why the decision to lock down was made at various times during 2020 and early 2021 when Covid was killing millions and there were no vaccines, then I think you’re talking rubbish.

What about the non-covid excess deaths that keep on going up? Any thoughts on that? And what about all the deaths "with covid" that were recorded as covid deaths, even though it wasn't the primary cause?

[the other bob wilson]

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What about the non-covid excess deaths that keep on going up? Any thoughts on that? And what about all the deaths "with covid" that were recorded as covid deaths, even though it wasn't the primary cause?

None of that makes any difference to what I said, I suppose that makes me a lockdown fanatic in your eyes.

[Wales-Bales]

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None of that makes any difference to what I said, I suppose that makes me a lockdown fanatic in your eyes.

Well, some people think there may be a lot more excess/wrongly attributed deaths compared to direct covid deaths, so it is surprising that you consider it to be irrelevant.

[the other bob wilson]

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Well, some people think there may be a lot more excess/wrongly attributed deaths compared to direct covid deaths, so it is surprising that you consider it to be irrelevant.

All I’m talking about in this thread is your use of the term “lockdown fanatics”. You didn’t start this thread to talk about excess deaths did you.

[TWGL1]

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Who are these “lockdown fanatics”? Are there still people out there saying we should all lockdown? If there are, I agree - they’re fanatics. If, on the other hand, you mean those who could understand why the decision to lock down was made at various times during 2020 and early 2021 when Covid was killing millions and there were no vaccines, then I think you’re talking rubbish.

Covid was downgraded from a High Consequence Infectious Disease in March 2020

https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/covid-19-was-downgraded-as-a-highly-infectious-disease-in-march-2020/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

Chris Whitty the CMO also advised that Covid to 80% of the population would have no symptoms, or mild , or moderate, and a small minority would have severe symptoms

Clearly this knowledge was in the public domain.

Supposedly, you can:

1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, obviously caused by other things.

This is not 2+2=4.

[the other bob wilson]

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Covid was downgraded from a High Consequence Infectious Disease in March 2020

https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/covid-19-was-downgraded-as-a-highly-infectious-disease-in-march-2020/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

Chris Whitty the CMO also advised that Covid to 80% of the population would have no symptoms, or mild , or moderate, and a small minority would have severe symptoms

Clearly this knowledge was in the public domain.

Supposedly, you can:

1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, obviously caused by other things.

This is not 2+2=4.

None of that tells me who the lockdown fanatics are.

[TWGL1]

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None of that tells me who the lockdown fanatics are.

Many high profile and eminent personalities were asking for harder , longer lockdowns , I’m sure you know who they were at the time. Many many people agreed with them at the time as well.

My son suffered with this personal development and education and it was wrong.

[TWGL1]

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Covid was downgraded from a High Consequence Infectious Disease in March 2020

https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/covid-19-was-downgraded-as-a-highly-infectious-disease-in-march-2020/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

Chris Whitty the CMO also advised that Covid to 80% of the population would have no symptoms, or mild , or moderate, and a small minority would have severe symptoms

Clearly this knowledge was in the public domain.

Supposedly, you can:

1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, obviously caused by other things.

This is not 2+2=4.

I forgot to add

The CDC, on the other hand, says "covid is clinically indistinguishable from influenza" and that a "test" is the only way to know if you have "it."

When you know the "tests" are not tests at all………..:hehe

Work it out for yourself :

[TWGL1]

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None of that tells me who the lockdown fanatics are.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11478109/DAN-WOOTTON-Xis-sick-deranged-Zero-Covid-policy-destroying-country-finally-crumbling.html

[Wales-Bales]

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Many high profile and eminent personalities were asking for harder , longer lockdowns , I’m sure you know who they were at the time. Many many people agreed with them at the time as well.

My son suffered with this personal development and education and it was wrong.

Did the lockdowns even work, and the vaccines for that matter?

[MOZZER2]

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here;s an interesting graph showing how Sweden fared in all this regarding lock downs

Sweden ����

���� No lockdowns
���� No school closures
���� No mask mandates

Sweden had the lowest overall cumulative excess deaths in countries analysed by the OECD during the pandemic era from March 2020 to June 2022. pic.twitter.com/nbzI1veo8y

— James Melville (@JamesMelville) November 27, 2022

[Wales-Bales]

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here;s an interesting graph showing how Sweden fared in all this regarding lock downs

Sweden ����

���� No lockdowns
���� No school closures
���� No mask mandates

Sweden had the lowest overall cumulative excess deaths in countries analysed by the OECD during the pandemic era from March 2020 to June 2022. pic.twitter.com/nbzI1veo8y
— James Melville (@JamesMelville) November 27, 2022

Yeah, I wouldn't be defending them as though they were a huge success. I think it's time for a public enquiry and let everybody have a voice, not just those who were controlling the narrative.