Influenza cases

[TWGL1]

2016/17 29m

2017/18 45m

2018/19 36m

2019/20 38m

2020/21. 0.0015 m. Covid 32m

Shows how serious things got.

[jon1959]

Re: Influenza cases

2016/17 29m

2017/18 45m

2018/19 36m

2019/20 38m

2020/21. 0.0015 m. Covid 32m

Shows how serious things got.

What do those figures cover?

Much too high for the UK, much too low for worldwide?

Whatever the scope, it seems to show that flu was contained by lockdown, but Covid is much more transmittable and dangerous.

[TWGL1]

Re: Influenza cases

What do those figures cover?

Much too high for the UK, much too low for worldwide?

Whatever the scope, it seems to show that flu was contained by lockdown, but Covid is much more transmittable and dangerous.

Perhaps but the symptoms were almost the same.

NHS staff could put Covid on a death certificate WITHOUT TESTING using the clinical balance of probability.

https://twitter.com/1bjdj/status/1597648720748609537?s=61&t=e95oXEnWBWxYyMSXBJfgBQ

It’s worth noting

The CDC, on the other hand, says "covid is clinically indistinguishable from influenza" and that a "test" is the only way to know if you have "it."

When you know the "tests" are not tests at all then ….l

[jon1959]

Re: Influenza cases

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/howcoronaviruscovid19compareswithfluasacauseofdeath/2022-05-23

[TWGL1]

Re: Influenza cases

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ath/2022-05-23

Within 28 days of a positive test or “clinical opinion, which involved no test” must have had a significant impact on ONS data.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Influenza cases

Yes, is was a particularly weak strain of flu in 2020 *cough, cough*

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Influenza cases

Yes, is was a particularly weak strain of flu in 2020 *cough, cough*

And so, three years later, it comes full circle with more claims that it’s just like flu.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Influenza cases

And so, three years later, it comes full circle with more claims that it’s just like flu.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck..

[TWGL1]

Re: Influenza cases

And so, three years later, it comes full circle with more claims that it’s just like flu.

Supposedly, you can:

1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, which was obviously caused by other things, any ideas what ?

Bear in mind the Covid came into the Uk September 2019 and nobody batted a eye-lid

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Influenza cases

And so, three years later, it comes full circle with more claims that it’s just like flu.

The revisionism is breathtaking. TWGL1 posts some flu case history from the US without any reference to the fact that there was a vaccine to constrain its most dangerous effects in a way that was absent when Covid arrived. Also he focusses on cases not consequences where deaths and serious cases were overwhelming and would have been much worse without social distancing measures.

Thanks to weakening mutation and vaccine we are nearing or at the point where we can thankfully treat covid and the flu in a similar way, but anyone who thinks that this was the case in 2020/21 is frankly off the scale. Just check the graph in the article below and see what bollocks they are regurgitating!

https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/27/why-covid-isnt-like-the-flu-death-toll-leading-cause-death-omicron-shot-booster-vaccine/

[TWGL1]

Re: Influenza cases

The revisionism is breathtaking. TWGL1 posts some flu case history from the US without any reference to the fact that there was a vaccine to constrain its most dangerous effects in a way that was absent when Covid arrived. Also he focusses on cases not consequences where deaths and serious cases were overwhelming and would have been much worse without social distancing measures.

Thanks to weakening mutation and vaccine we are nearing or at the point where we can thankfully treat covid and the flu in a similar way, but anyone who thinks that this was the case in 2020/21 is frankly off the scale. Just check the graph in the article below and see what bollocks they are regurgitating!

https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/27/...oster-vaccine/

Out of interest have you changed your diet , increased your exercise and maybe cut down on drinking / smoking to mitigate any potential risks from the many viruses in circulation or are you just going to solely rely on medication interventions which perhaps could be allocated to the weakest in society and people who need it most

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Influenza cases

Out of interest have you changed your diet , increased your exercise and maybe cut down on drinking / smoking to mitigate any potential risks from the many viruses in circulation or are you just going to solely rely on medication interventions which perhaps could be allocated to the weakest in society and people who need it most

A not too effective swerve.

[TWGL1]

Re: Influenza cases

A not too effective swerve.

I’m not swerving at all What’s your view in the CDC’s directive in that you can’t distinguish SARS-Cov2 from flu without a test , and the feasibility that the IFR rate is the same as flu ?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Influenza cases

I’m not swerving at all What’s your view in the CDC’s directive in that you can’t distinguish SARS-Cov2 from flu without a test , and the feasibility that the IFR rate is the same as flu ?

I haven't got one. What we've got here is a bunch of people who made fools of themselves three years ago as they desperately searched for ways to downplay something that was killing millions trying to rewrite history (at least I'm presuming that with you because you've changed your posting name since then) and, laughably, now trying to make out they were right all along.

[TWGL1]

Re: Influenza cases

I haven't got one. What we've got here is a bunch of people who made fools of themselves three years ago as they desperately searched for ways to downplay something that was killing millions trying to rewrite history (at least I'm presuming that with you because you've changed your posting name since then) and, laughably, now trying to make out they were right all along.

No as I’ve said repeatedly, I have not held another account for years prior to this one but if it gives you comfort thinking I have , crack on .

I am not going to change my opinion and it’s clear to me that it’s reasonable to ask questions. I think it’s laughable that agenda pushers like you who are retired with little to lose if we are locked down question business people with families like myself regarding policies that clearly has a more negative impact than a positive one on society.