SAS Rogue Hero's BBC

[ToTaL ITK]

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Bit of a daft comment, don't ya think??
Had Hitler gotten control of mainland Europe, which was clearly the intention, I daresay no blacks, Jews, Muslims etc would be residing anywhere in Europe right now.
Who's the more racist of the two of them really?

You'll have to ask Kanye west

[Ninja]

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You'll have to ask Kanye west

Might as well bang your head against a brick wall. It would make more sense.

[dandywarhol]

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I watched the series some time ago on BBC i player.Excellent series.
As for a coup given the power of the trade unions in the 70s,a national strike who have been called.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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War mongerer and a general wrong'un. No wonder Johnson idolises him

I think that's a fair conclusion

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Bit of a daft comment, don't ya think??
Had Hitler gotten control of mainland Europe, which was clearly the intention, I daresay no blacks, Jews, Muslims etc would be residing anywhere in Europe right now.
Who's the more racist of the two of them really?

I didn't say who was the most racist , Hitler or Churchill

I said Churchill was a racist old tosser and he was

Hitler was a fascist which is a racist and many other attributes

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Nor residing here.. Churchill for all his faults was nothing like some have painted him here.

I can't speak for others but I have described him as a racist

Which is what he was

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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And he was given the boot by the electorate Towards the end of the second world War. Bit strange that, you would have thought that he would have been very popular. Obviously not. Also sent The Murderous 'Black and Tans' into Ireland. My Grandfather despised Churchill.

Mine too

[ToTaL ITK]

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I can't speak for others but I have described him as a racist

Which is what he was

He had no respect for the middle east or muslims.

[Jordi Culé]

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Mine too

Also allowed the army into Tonypandy to influence the Miners Strike.

Basically sent soldiers on the population.

[welshyoot]

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I've not seen this series but recently started watching the Mayfair set. It's old now but I found it very interesting. The first episode, at least, focuses on Stirling and the SAS.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p073k9s0/the-mayfair-set

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Also allowed the army into Tonypandy to influence the Miners Strike.

Basically sent soldiers on the population.

That's not true.

[Jordi Culé]

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That's not true.

I think you may find he agreed to the use of troops as requested by the then chief of heddlu/dibble.

Some say he was reluctant to do so but do do he did.

I'll stand corrected if you can tell me otherwise.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I think you may find he agreed to the use of troops as requested by the then chief of heddlu/dibble.

Some say he was reluctant to do so but do do he did.

I'll stand corrected if you can tell me otherwise.

The police requested the local authories to bring them in because of looting etc. Churchill found out and initially stopped them an they billetted at [Swindon ?]. The local authorities and police asked they carry on to Tonypandy, which they did, but they never came into face-to-face confrontation with the miners. There's a lot of stuff written about it but if you want a balanced, detailed account there's a whole chapter in Jeremy Paxman's Black Gold - it probably available in you local library.

[Jordi Culé]

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The police requested the local authories to bring them in because of looting etc. Churchill found out and initially stopped them an they billetted at [Swindon ?]. The local authorities and police asked they carry on to Tonypandy, which they did, but they never came into face-to-face confrontation with the miners. There's a lot of stuff written about it but if you want a balanced, detailed account there's a whole chapter in Jeremy Paxman's Black Gold - it probably available in you local library.

I've read Paxmans book, decent read but certainly subjective, I agree it's quite balanced.

Decent view on the Aberfan disaster too.

Thought my view was 'balanced' mind. I don't subscribe to the view Churchill enthusiastically allowed troops to the Rhondda but he certainly agreed to it.

Another who showed restraint remarkably was the army commander MaCready. The same bloke who went into Ireland with the Black n Tan's.

[life on mars]

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Bit of a daft comment, don't ya think??
Had Hitler gotten control of mainland Europe, which was clearly the intention, I daresay no blacks, Jews, Muslims etc would be residing anywhere in Europe right now.
Who's the more racist of the two of them really?

Just the usual we hate Tory trait.

With no consideration of the issues and behaviour of all at the time ..

Churchill was an extraordinary man , as were his views on winning a war, whilst allowing the rules of war to be ignored in North Africa to win atvall costs , let's not forget it was in tandem with Nazis gassing women and children , and the Japanese cruelly torturing POW's
Guess Nazis ,Japs were not as evil as a all Tories.