The truth about Matt Hancock

[Dorcus]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

Most of the measures were not needed against something that was mild to moderate to 90% of the population. Most would not know they would have had anything other than flu unless they used a test which in itself was inaccurate.

Out of interest does anybody know how many vaccines given out were placebo ?

One in ten springs to mind.

Most if not all of the measures were certainly needed in order to stop the spread of the virus and protect the weak and vulnerable. The only other option would have been to let it rip and achieve herd immunity im the wake of thousands of unnecessary deaths and the age profile of the deceased is of zero relevance.

I'm just grateful that thousands were saved even though the measures deployed inconvenienced so many many selfish libertarians.

[TWGL1]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

Most if not all of the measures were certainly needed in order to stop the spread of the virus and protect the weak and vulnerable. The only other option would have been to let it rip and achieve herd immunity im the wake of thousands of unnecessary deaths and the age profile of the deceased is of zero relevance.

I'm just grateful that thousands were saved even though the measures deployed inconvenienced so many many selfish libertarians.

You could argue that those who bought into the lockdown policies were also selfish when you consider the excess deaths, caused by delays in cancer / heart operations , impacts on mental health services, increased alcohol use, the impact on education etc for a virus that has a similar IFR as flu, (bearing in mind we don’t put flu on a death certificate within 28 days of a positive test)

[Hilts]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

You could argue that those who bought into the lockdown policies were also selfish when you consider the excess deaths, caused by delays in cancer / heart operations , impacts on mental health services, increased alcohol use, the impact on education etc for a virus that has a similar IFR as flu, (bearing in mind we don’t put flu on a death certificate within 28 days of a positive test)

And you dont think there would have been impacts on operations , mental health services , education if wed let Covid rip through the population.?

[TWGL1]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

And you dont think there would have been impacts on operations , mental health services , education if wed let Covid rip through the population.?

It did rip through the population, but to most is was mild, again that’s my point.

Operations…. The backlog is 7m plus so clearly that didn’t work

[Hilts]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

It did rip through the population, but to most is was mild, again that’s my point.

Operations…. The backlog is 7m plus so clearly that didn’t work

Ill rephrase as you didnt answer.

Don't you think there would have been an impact if wed had no lockdowns and allowed Covid to spread much quicker?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

A warning to the British public from Dr Aseem Malhotra.

https://rumble.com/v1li6a5-freeman-interviews-dr-aseem-malhotra.html

[Dorcus]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

You could argue that those who bought into the lockdown policies were also selfish when you consider the excess deaths, caused by delays in cancer / heart operations , impacts on mental health services, increased alcohol use, the impact on education etc for a virus that has a similar IFR as flu, (bearing in mind we don’t put flu on a death certificate within 28 days of a positive test)

No you couldn't argue that. Nice try but my advice would be get over it.

[Hilts]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

A warning to the British public from Dr Aseem Malhotra.

https://rumble.com/v1li6a5-freeman-i...-malhotra.html

Dr Aseem Malhotra 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The sugar anti carb eat loads of fat guy. ????

On another anti vax rant.?

[TWGL1]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

Ill rephrase as you didnt answer.

Don't you think there would have been an impact if wed had no lockdowns and allowed Covid to spread much quicker?

It would have spread , but as the statistics suggest , healthy people under possibly 65/70 would have suffered mild symptoms. If you were really unfortunate you may have been in bed for a few days.

The vulnerable would have been locked down no question there.

[TWGL1]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

No you couldn't argue that. Nice try but my advice would be get over it.

It’s fact not a nice try.

[Hilts]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

It would have spread , but as the statistics suggest , healthy people under possibly 65/70 would have suffered mild symptoms. If you were really unfortunate you may have been in bed for a few days.

The vulnerable would have been locked down no question there.

No utter rubbish. If you were really unfortunate you may have died.

[TWGL1]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

No utter rubbish. If you were really unfortunate you may have died.

Chris Whitty didn’t seem to think so, neither did all those M.P’s who broke the diktats whilst at the same time ordering the public to “follow the rules”

The data suggests they were correct as well. Why don’t you just read the article in this post.


ONS data on healthy people

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnounderlyinghealthconditionsbyage

This data is prior to vaccine rollout

[Hilts]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

Chris Whitty didn’t seem to think so, neither did all those M.P’s who broke the diktats whilst at the same time ordering the public to “follow the rules”

The data suggests they were correct as well. Why don’t you just read the article in this post.


ONS data on healthy people

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnounderlyinghealthconditionsbyage

This data is prior to vaccine rollout

Doesnt that show if you were really unfortunate you would have died.?

[TWGL1]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

Doesnt that show if you were really unfortunate you would have died.?

One cohort group has a 1:555,000 chance

This group is ten times more likely to die from a dog attack ,which would be even more unfortunate.

[Hilts]

Re: The truth about Matt Hancock

One cohort group has a 1:555,000 chance

This group is ten times more likely to die from a dog attack ,which would be even more unfortunate.

If you think someone under 65 without underlying health conditions is more likely to die from a dog attack I give up.