Israel - worrying

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64115141

Netanyahu's hard-line new government takes office

[jon1959]

Re: Israel - worrying

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israel-and-the-rise-of-jewish-fascism

Alon Pinkas, writing in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, calls the coalition government, scheduled to take power in one or two weeks, “a kakistocracy extraordinaire: government by the worst and least suitable collection of ultranationalists, Jewish supremacists, anti-democrats, racists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, corrupt and allegedly corrupt politicians. A ruling coalition of 64 lawmakers, of whom 32 are either ultra-Orthodox or religious Zionist. Certainly not a coalition Zeev Jabotinsky, the father of Revisionist Zionism, or Menachem Begin, the founder of Likud, could have ever imagined.”

Itamar Ben-Gvir, from the ultra-nationalist Otzma Yehudit, “Jewish Power,” party, will be the new minister for internal security. Otzma Yehudit is populated with members of Rabbi Meir Kahane’s Kach party, which was banned from running for the Knesset in 1988 for espousing a “Nazi-like ideology” that included advocating the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian citizens of Israel as well as all Palestinians living under Israeli military occupation.

His appointment, along with that of other far-right ideologues, including Bezalel Smotrich, to be in charge of the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), effectively jettisons the old tropes liberal Zionists used to defend Israel – that it is the only democracy in the Middle East, that it seeks a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians in a two-state solution, that extremism and racism have no place in Israeli society and that Israel must impose draconian forms of control on the Palestinians to prevent terrorism.

Ben-Gvir and Smotrich represent the dregs of Israeli society, one that promotes “Jewish identity” and “Jewish nationalism” in a Zionist version of fascism’s call for blood and soil. They are Israel’s equivalent of Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Their Religious Zionist bloc is now the third largest in the Knesset.

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Those right wing Israelis are utter crackpots

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Those right wing Israelis are utter crackpots

Why do you always departmentalise right and left wing ?

It’s nothing to do with right and left wing FFS

I see nothing being reported media wise about Israel’s illegal military interventions….

[the other bob wilson]

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Why do you always departmentalise right and left wing ?

It’s nothing to do with right and left wing FFS

I see nothing being reported media wise about Israel’s illegal military interventions….

Are you saying that this is a Government of the left?

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Are you saying that this is a Government of the left?

Some of its policies are , but left or right, it’s still the same bird.

Either way it’s a regime supported by the UK /U.S governments , which is hypocritical

[chrisp_1927]

Re: Israel - worrying

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/i...jewish-fascism


Alon Pinkas, writing in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, calls the coalition government, scheduled to take power in one or two weeks, “a kakistocracy extraordinaire: government by the worst and least suitable collection of ultranationalists, Jewish supremacists, anti-democrats, racists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, corrupt and allegedly corrupt politicians. A ruling coalition of 64 lawmakers, of whom 32 are either ultra-Orthodox or religious Zionist. Certainly not a coalition Zeev Jabotinsky, the father of Revisionist Zionism, or Menachem Begin, the founder of Likud, could have ever imagined.”

Itamar Ben-Gvir, from the ultra-nationalist Otzma Yehudit, “Jewish Power,” party, will be the new minister for internal security. Otzma Yehudit is populated with members of Rabbi Meir Kahane’s Kach party, which was banned from running for the Knesset in 1988 for espousing a “Nazi-like ideology” that included advocating the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian citizens of Israel as well as all Palestinians living under Israeli military occupation.

His appointment, along with that of other far-right ideologues, including Bezalel Smotrich, to be in charge of the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), effectively jettisons the old tropes liberal Zionists used to defend Israel – that it is the only democracy in the Middle East, that it seeks a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians in a two-state solution, that extremism and racism have no place in Israeli society and that Israel must impose draconian forms of control on the Palestinians to prevent terrorism.

Ben-Gvir and Smotrich represent the dregs of Israeli society, one that promotes “Jewish identity” and “Jewish nationalism” in a Zionist version of fascism’s call for blood and soil. They are Israel’s equivalent of Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Their Religious Zionist bloc is now the third largest in the Knesset.

The new government is extremely worrying. Some out and out scumbags getting some important ministries. I sincerely hope this current vile coalition disintegrates very soon.




Although, surely that article would put the minds of its readers at ease. Because according to the author Israel has always been that bad, they're just being more honest about it now.

[the other bob wilson]

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Some of its policies are , but left or right, it’s still the same bird.

Either way it’s a regime supported by the UK /U.S governments , which is hypocritical

Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that.

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Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that.

Their Covid policies were very authoritarian but you would no doubt agree with that

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Israel - worrying

The new government is extremely worrying. Some out and out scumbags getting some important ministries. I sincerely hope this current vile coalition disintegrates very soon.




Although, surely that article would put the minds of its readers at ease. Because according to the author Israel has always been that bad, they're just being more honest about it now.

It's fortunate -for the world as a whole - that the fate of the Palestinians is generally ignored by the rest of the Arab world. They know that to meddle openly would certainly bring the U.S. into a direct conflict, so for the time being they can continue to be persecuted.

[chrisp_1927]

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It's fortunate -for the world as a whole - that the fate of the Palestinians is generally ignored by the rest of the Arab world. They know that to meddle openly would certainly bring the U.S. into a direct conflict, so for the time being they can continue to be persecuted.

Without wanting to open up a huge can of worms. Maybe it's because the vast majority of countries in the Arab world know that they have minorities or whole populations that are being subjugated and discriminated against to a far greater extent than the Palestinians. The levels of anti semitism endemic in that part of the world also make it quite hard for many to put forward a coherent arguement for why they dislike Israel, that doesn't just involve their hatred of Jews in general.


Still, despite in most ways being a big supporter of Israel I don't want to go down that route here because the current Israeli government is awful and fully deserving of any criticism directed towards it. Disappointed in the Biden administration aswell, I thought they'd try and crack down on the Israelis over settlement building. They don't seem to have exerted any pressure whatsoever.

[the other bob wilson]

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Their Covid policies were very authoritarian but you would no doubt agree with that

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Their Covid policies were very authoritarian but you would no doubt agree with that

Get out of here for Christ's sake with your conspiracy covid nonsense

Israel are going to be governed by right wing zionist crackpots

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Re: Israel - worrying

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/i...jewish-fascism


Alon Pinkas, writing in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, calls the coalition government, scheduled to take power in one or two weeks, “a kakistocracy extraordinaire: government by the worst and least suitable collection of ultranationalists, Jewish supremacists, anti-democrats, racists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, corrupt and allegedly corrupt politicians. A ruling coalition of 64 lawmakers, of whom 32 are either ultra-Orthodox or religious Zionist. Certainly not a coalition Zeev Jabotinsky, the father of Revisionist Zionism, or Menachem Begin, the founder of Likud, could have ever imagined.”

Itamar Ben-Gvir, from the ultra-nationalist Otzma Yehudit, “Jewish Power,” party, will be the new minister for internal security. Otzma Yehudit is populated with members of Rabbi Meir Kahane’s Kach party, which was banned from running for the Knesset in 1988 for espousing a “Nazi-like ideology” that included advocating the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian citizens of Israel as well as all Palestinians living under Israeli military occupation.

His appointment, along with that of other far-right ideologues, including Bezalel Smotrich, to be in charge of the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), effectively jettisons the old tropes liberal Zionists used to defend Israel – that it is the only democracy in the Middle East, that it seeks a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians in a two-state solution, that extremism and racism have no place in Israeli society and that Israel must impose draconian forms of control on the Palestinians to prevent terrorism.

Ben-Gvir and Smotrich represent the dregs of Israeli society, one that promotes “Jewish identity” and “Jewish nationalism” in a Zionist version of fascism’s call for blood and soil. They are Israel’s equivalent of Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Their Religious Zionist bloc is now the third largest in the Knesset.

It's madness

Liberal Jews are wonderful company

This lot are insane

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Why do you always departmentalise right and left wing ?

It’s nothing to do with right and left wing FFS

I see nothing being reported media wise about Israel’s illegal military interventions….

It's everything to do with left and right

If you can't accept that it seems pointless starting the thread

It's war for territory

The left on Israel are wonderful , modern thinkers

The right are Potty