Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

[Dorcus]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

David Lammy is just as bad as Boris with this dreadful comment sadly its part of the bigger problem of nasty politics.

You could argue Trump politics exists in both parties , if you point a finger at Boris and his language surely the same goes for this comment by Lammy comparing ERG Brexit group to Nazis and he backs it up with ‘not strong enough’ dear lord how does that sound to Jewish people whose relatives died at the hands of the Nazis in gas chambers and they get compared too Brexiteers , nasty ,nasty socialist comments up there with nasty Right wing politics .

What shocks me Lammy even after this comment Labour think fit to promote him , dear lord we say Tories are bankrupt .

Its sits with the fact anti-Semitism existed in the Labour Party equally a disgusting poor behaviour.

I'm choughed you're mentioning this. There's plenty to crow about.

[Jordi Culé]

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Think the vileness was out there already ,even Whitty was attacked


Gove was targeted by anti-lockdown protesters

And the journalists Nick Watt and Jeremy Vine been targeted.

Correct LoM the loopers are out there which is why they shouldn't be condoned, supported or given justification by anyone but especially by the bloke masquerading as the PM.

Dan Hodges made a point mind that he thinks Johndon is repeating the conspiracy theorists rather than them being stoked by Johnson.

If so, it's the first thing the bumbling cuuntwaffle has paid attention to apart from perhaps the Christmas quiz held at number 10?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

I'm choughed you're mentioning this. There's plenty to crow about.

I’d leave it there if I were you, we don’t want him to Carrion like he usually does.

[JamesWales]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

Correct LoM the loopers are out there which is why they shouldn't be condoned, supported or given justification by anyone but especially by the bloke masquerading as the PM.

Dan Hodges made a point mind that he thinks Johndon is repeating the conspiracy theorists rather than them being stoked by Johnson.

If so, it's the first thing the bumbling cuuntwaffle has paid attention to apart from perhaps the Christmas quiz held at number 10?

You make a reasonable point. Starmer was head of the organisation that failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, but he didn't personally have any involvement. I don't know how common it is for the head of the organisation to intervene, but I would suggest it's unreasonable to expect it.

As such, do you think people who personally blame Johnson for things like '150,000' deaths, or Teresa May for Grenfell is equally inappropriate?

[Jordi Culé]

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You make a reasonable point. Starmer was head of the organisation that failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, but he didn't personally have any involvement. I don't know how common it is for the head of the organisation to intervene, but I would suggest it's unreasonable to expect it.

As such, do you think people who personally blame Johnson for things like '150,000' deaths, or Teresa May for Grenfell is equally inappropriate?

Are you honestly and really comparing Starmer apparent failure to prosecute Savile, May being PM whilst a tragedy took place on a single day to Johnson's numerous mistakes, absences of leadership leading up and alleged parties during the pandemic?

Fair play to you but that's a bit of a reach

[JamesWales]

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Are you honestly and really comparing Starmer apparent failure to prosecute Savile, May being PM whilst a tragedy took place on a single day to Johnson's numerous mistakes, absences of leadership leading up and alleged parties during the pandemic?

Fair play to you but that's a bit of a reach

Sorry, is it not the same principle? I've those at the head of an organisation not being personally responsible for it? That's your argument isn't it?

Can you please clarify what the rules are here?!🤣

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

Sorry, is it not the same principle? I've those at the head of an organisation not being personally responsible for it? That's your argument isn't it?

Can you please clarify what the rules are here?!🤣

Use that self proclaimed ability of yours by looking at the three situations in a nuanced manner.

I’m sure you can spot subtle differences between them?

[JamesWales]

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Use that self proclaimed ability of yours by looking at the three situations in a nuanced manner.

I’m sure you can spot subtle differences between them?

Ha, thanks.

Look, I get it. Johnson shouldn't have said it.

My point is applying this consistently. It's a fact that Starmer was head of an organisation that (with hindsight) made a huge error.

The same goes for a lot in government. Is it not common to us we phrases such as 'the fish rots from the head down' and 'the person at the top is ultimately responsible' etc?

Will we not be doing that going forward then?

I think a huge stupid fuss was made over it. He shouldn't have said it but then again the reaction was OTT.

[Jordi Culé]

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Ha, thanks.

Look, I get it. Johnson shouldn't have said it.

My point is applying this consistently. It's a fact that Starmer was head of an organisation that (with hindsight) made a huge error.

The same goes for a lot in government. Is it not common to us we phrases such as 'the fish rots from the head down' and 'the person at the top is ultimately responsible' etc?

Will we not be doing that going forward then?

I think a huge stupid fuss was made over it. He shouldn't have said it but then again the reaction was OTT.

Hmmm...

I'm not sure you do get the point or you're deliberately obfuscating the point?

You're comparing the CPS not prosecuting Savile whilst Starmer was top dawg and May being PM whilst the Grenfell tragedy occurred with Johnsons mistakes made during the Covid pandemic.

Come on buddy, you can do it.

We're in agreement that Johnson shouldn't have said it but let's be honest, he feels its a legitimate strategy for deflecting shiit away from him.

You are right though, that's where politics is at the moment. Embarrassing and extremely worrying.

[JamesWales]

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Hmmm...

I'm not sure you do get the point or you're deliberately obfuscating the point?

You're comparing the CPS not prosecuting Savile whilst Starmer was top dawg and May being PM whilst the Grenfell tragedy occurred with Johnsons mistakes made during the Covid pandemic.

Come on buddy, you can do it.

We're in agreement that Johnson shouldn't have said it but let's be honest, he feels its a legitimate strategy for deflecting shiit away from him.

You are right though, that's where politics is at the moment. Embarrassing and extremely worrying.

It's all shit. Lets just have a beer yeah 😘

[jon1959]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

He's filling in his police questionnaire today.

Multiple choice I assume.

'Are you a lying, rule-breaking, narcissist?' - Yes/No

'Are you telling the truth?' - Yes/No

[Dorcus]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

He's filling in his police questionnaire today.

Multiple choice I assume.

'Are you a lying, rule-breaking, narcissist?' - Yes/No

'Are you telling the truth?' - Yes/No

Do you suffer from delusions of grandeur?
Are your brains stored in your balls?

[the other bob wilson]

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Something else to be added to this Government’s Roll of Shame, they’ve lifted a ban on Rupert Murdoch interfering in the editorial independence of the Times and Sunday Times imposed by the Thatcher Government when he bought both papers in the eighties.

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

In the interests of balance here is a piece from the Independent (yes, the Independent) which is quite favourable to Johnson.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...l?fr=operanews

I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon!

[Dorcus]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

In the interests of balance here is a piece from the Independent (yes, the Independent) which is quite favourable to Johnson.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...l?fr=operanews

I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon!

John Rentoul is of a right wing bent so it's no surprise he finds some credit in Johnson's war performance. Nevertheless he's a savvy journalist and his analysis should not be dismissed. It will be interesting to guage the mood of the Tories after May's local elections.