Rachel riley

[Former Labour leader]

Re: Rachel riley

85% of British Jews considered him antisemitic

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/more-than-85-per-cent-of-british-jews-think-jeremy-corbyn-is-antisemitic-1.469654?reloadTime=1672531200011

I think I will believe them thanks

Just admit Labour had an issue under Corbyn. It's not a hard thing to do. Will probably be cathartic for some of you to admit it.

40% of the British public thought he was antisemitic.

Me personally, I don't. But I think he allowed it to flourish for political reasons

I'm closer to the Labour Party than you are. Not that it makes a difference.
Corbyn was not and never has been antisemitic. However by not admitting clearly that parts of the Labour party are, gave the opportunity for the anti Corbynites out (both inside and outside the Labour party).there to bring him down.
As someone mentioned up thread mentioned Boris Johnson and the Tory Party have a free ride with their Islamophobia which, in my opinion is far worse than the antisemitism in the Labour Party.I wonder why?

[jon1959]

Re: Rachel riley

She called Corbyn antisemitic which he his isn't .
She wore that t-shirt with his image on to smear him.
She was definitely part of a right wing smear campaign.
Big tits and good at the maths round on countdown gave her a platform.

Absolutely right. She was also fully in with the (mainly successful) movement to label anti Zionism and criticism of Israeli actions as antisemitic. And quite happy to denounce thousands of anti racist Jews as antisemites. She got a lot of celebrity support in the early days of the Corbyn smears, but went totally OTT. I remember Stephen Fry distancing himself from her (after being a cheerleader) when she called Noam Chomsky antisemitic.

Still James is convinced so she must be right!

[Vindec]

Re: Rachel riley

I know it's heretical to accuse Corbyn of anything on here but you have to ask yourselves why did the majority of Labour MPs oppose him and why was Corbyn suspended by his own Party if he is the whiter than white character portrayed on here. Clearly the article below hasn't concluded that Corbyn was blameless.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/03/07/anti-semitism-british-politics-and-the-indecency-of-jeremy-corbyn/

I recall when the Labour Part produced a report on anti semitism (sorry can't spell her name but got her an honour as a result) Juliet Berger was subjected to such racial abuse by those present she had to leave the meeting.

[Dorcus]

Re: Rachel riley

I know it's heretical to accuse Corbyn of anything on here but you have to ask yourselves why did the majority of Labour MPs oppose him and why was Corbyn suspended by his own Party if he is the whiter than white character portrayed on here. Clearly the article below hasn't concluded that Corbyn was blameless.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/03/07/anti-semitism-british-politics-and-the-indecency-of-jeremy-corbyn/

I recall when the Labour Part produced a report on anti semitism (sorry can't spell her name but got her an honour as a result) Juliet Berger was subjected to such racial abuse by those present she had to leave the meeting.

Corbyn is anti Zionist and NOT anti Jewish (I hate the term anti Semitic and will not use it unless we mean anti Arabic, anti Berber and a few other ethnicities too).

Unfortunately the difference of being Anti Zionist to Anti Jewish escapes most people.

[Harry Lime]

Re: Rachel riley

Classic sheep in wolf's clothing thread
So many old goldfish bowl beefs on here

[jon1959]

Re: Rachel riley

She called Corbyn antisemitic which he his isn't .
She wore that t-shirt with his image on to smear him.
She was definitely part of a right wing smear campaign.
Big tits and good at the maths round on countdown gave her a platform.

I know it's heretical to accuse Corbyn of anything on here but you have to ask yourselves why did the majority of Labour MPs oppose him and why was Corbyn suspended by his own Party if he is the whiter than white character portrayed on here. Clearly the article below hasn't concluded that Corbyn was blameless.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/03/07/anti-semitism-british-politics-and-the-indecency-of-jeremy-corbyn/

I recall when the Labour Part produced a report on anti semitism (sorry can't spell her name but got her an honour as a result) Juliet Berger was subjected to such racial abuse by those present she had to leave the meeting.

The report was by Shami Chaktabarti and she didn’t get ‘rewarded’ for it. She was already a highly respected lawyer and former head of Liberty who had been doing that kind of investigation and reports for decades. It was a fair and balanced report that was in line with the findings of the all party Home Affairs Select Committee on antisemitism.

I think you mean Luciana Berger not Juliet. She was abused on social media - mostly by the far right - but she was happy to imply falsely that socialists in her local party were responsible.

It was Ruth Smeeth, not Berger, who dramatically stormed out of the event that presented the Chakrabarti report. She was not subjected to any racist abuse at that event - she was accused of passing briefing notes to the Tory press (Telegraph I think) by Marc Wadsworth - a black activist who was at the back of the meeting. Smeeth later labelled that allegation as antisemitic abuse. It looked like a pre planed stunt to me. But make your own mind up - the whole event was on the news and You Tube straight away. There was no abuse.

Marc Wadsworth was subsequently expelled from Labour for bringing it into disrepute - not for any imagined antisemitism. It was all part of the smear campaign from the Labour machine, PLP and most of the media/press - backed by the likes of Rachel Riley and the Israeli Embassy.

That said there are and we’re some antisemites in Labour - less so than in most other parties and the general population - but still as Corbyn said often ‘one is too many’.

[RichardM]

Re: Rachel riley

I know it's heretical to accuse Corbyn of anything on here but you have to ask yourselves why did the majority of Labour MPs oppose him and why was Corbyn suspended by his own Party if he is the whiter than white character portrayed on here. Clearly the article below hasn't concluded that Corbyn was blameless.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/03/07/anti-semitism-british-politics-and-the-indecency-of-jeremy-corbyn/

I recall when the Labour Part produced a report on anti semitism (sorry can't spell her name but got her an honour as a result) Juliet Berger was subjected to such racial abuse by those present she had to leave the meeting.

They opposed him because they never wanted him as leader in the first place, he was too left wing for them.

[Former Labour leader]

Re: Rachel riley

They opposed him because they never wanted him as leader in the first place, he was too left wing for them.

Yes imagine now if energy companies, railways and been nationalised, NHS had been properly funded.

[RichardM]

Re: Rachel riley

Yes imagine now if energy companies, railways and been nationalised, NHS had been properly funded.

Just think what a terrible state we'd be in, like Stalinist USSR

[Vindec]

Re: Rachel riley

The report was by Shami Chaktabarti and she didn’t get ‘rewarded’ for it. She was already a highly respected lawyer and former head of Liberty who had been doing that kind of investigation and reports for decades. It was a fair and balanced report that was in line with the findings of the all party Home Affairs Select Committee on antisemitism.

I think you mean Luciana Berger not Juliet. She was abused on social media - mostly by the far right - but she was happy to imply falsely that socialists in her local party were responsible.

It was Ruth Smeeth, not Berger, who dramatically stormed out of the event that presented the Chakrabarti report. She was not subjected to any racist abuse at that event - she was accused of passing briefing notes to the Tory press (Telegraph I think) by Marc Wadsworth - a black activist who was at the back of the meeting. Smeeth later labelled that allegation as antisemitic abuse. It looked like a pre planed stunt to me. But make your own mind up - the whole event was on the news and You Tube straight away. There was no abuse.

Marc Wadsworth was subsequently expelled from Labour for bringing it into disrepute - not for any imagined antisemitism. It was all part of the smear campaign from the Labour machine, PLP and most of the media/press - backed by the likes of Rachel Riley and the Israeli Embassy.

That said there are and we’re some antisemites in Labour - less so than in most other parties and the general population - but still as Corbyn said often ‘one is too many’.

Of course Labour cannot be at fault for much if anything.

[Vindec]

Re: Rachel riley

Just think what a terrible state we'd be in, like Stalinist USSR

And there was supposedly no money left but of course there is even less now. The thing I find surprising, although I shouldn't, is the fact the debate becomes so one sided. Earlier this week it was stated on several occasions that South Wales is poor which is true. But surely as Labour has consistently been the governing Party no blame whatsoever is attributed to them. Labour has taken Welsh voters for granted in the knowledge there is no opposition and the Tories have little incentive to do much for Wales because they know, even if vast improvements were made, they would get no credit. People don't have to vote Labour nor Tory as there are other political Parties out there.

[jon1959]

Re: Rachel riley

Of course Labour cannot be at fault for much if anything.

Of course they can, and are. I am no longer a member and was never an uncritical supporter of Corbyn (he got a lot wrong) but the antisemitism crisis was mainly cynical and dishonest - and mainly (not wholly) created to damage Corbyn and hand the Labour Party back to ‘safe’ hands. Job done!

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Rachel riley

She called Corbyn antisemitic which he his isn't .
She wore that t-shirt with his image on to smear him.
She was definitely part of a right wing smear campaign.
Big tits and good at the maths round on countdown gave her a platform.

James Corden has bigger tits than Riley

[Dorcus]

Re: Rachel riley

James Corden has bigger tits than Riley

That's not fair!

He's got bigger tits than most people. And even the Tory party!

[Dorcus]

Re: Rachel riley

Just think what a terrible state we'd be in, like Stalinist USSR

Not. You're right about why Corbyn was stabbed in the back though.