SNP on BBCQT

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https://twitter.com/juliahb1/status/1621410700131241985?s=61&t=6mX1AcKRs4g-_iDDzQy6jQ

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https://twitter.com/juliahb1/status/...s4g-_iDDzQy6jQ

As opposed to Julia Hartley-Brewer who has an opinion about absolutely everything she doesn’t know enough about

[JamesWales]

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As opposed to Julia Hartley-Brewer who has an opinion about absolutely everything she doesn’t know enough about

Oh come on, like most commentators on twitter she is there to br controversial but she is right to highlight the absurdity here. You would be all over it if she was a Tory!

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As opposed to Julia Hartley-Brewer who has an opinion about absolutely everything she doesn’t know enough about

The link is from her Twitter bio, but that’s not why I posted the extract

What’s your view on the actual SNP response to the question?

[Eric Cartman]

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This is a strange issue for me. I try and stay out of it because I don't really understand it, if pressed for an opinion I'd say biological sex is immutable and anything else needs to fit around that. Having said that, it is so far down my totem poll of importance that I am surprised at how much it is talked about. I suppose given the collapse of almost everything else they believe in, it is a safe space for the right of politics.

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Oh come on, like most commentators on twitter she is there to br controversial but she is right to highlight the absurdity here. You would be all over it if she was a Tory!

You’re right, people like her are just controversial for controversials sake. I’m not sure there needs to be a place for that but that’s where we are.

Admittedly I haven’t heard too much from her thankfully, given she tends to be appear mostly in right wing journalism, but of the few times I’ve seen her she sneered and said that climate change was complete nonsense. She gave off the air that anyone who didn’t agree with that, or couldn’t see her point just wasn’t on her level.

With regards the subject matter, like others I find the whole subject a very difficult one because it’s not something I’ve lived, or anyone close to me has lived. It’s pretty clear that a rapist who still has a penis shouldn’t be in a female prison but it seems the far right want to blow up this isolated case into a hysterical political hot potato where immigration once sat

[Eric Cartman]

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You’re right, people like her are just controversial for controversials sake. I’m not sure there needs to be a place for that but that’s where we are.

Admittedly I haven’t heard too much from her thankfully, given she tends to be appear mostly in right wing journalism, but of the few times I’ve seen her she sneered and said that climate change was complete nonsense. She gave off the air that anyone who didn’t agree with that, or couldn’t see her point just wasn’t on her level.

With regards the subject matter, like others I find the whole subject a very difficult one because it’s not something I’ve lived, or anyone close to me has lived. It’s pretty clear that a rapist who still has a penis shouldn’t be in a female prison but it seems the far right want to blow up this isolated case into a hysterical political hot potato where immigration once sat

That's a very good point. I guess it's a symptom of entrenched politics that with any given situation the outliers are thrust into the limelight as if they are typical and then opinions are formed around that.

It does feel as though the Tories will be clinging to this issue come next election and for me it isnt a good fit for Rishi but the tradition Tory platform has collapse around them so this is all they are left with. I expect the rhetoric to get ramped up and the pressure will be on labour to make sure they don't trip themselves up.

[the other bob wilson]

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This is a strange issue for me. I try and stay out of it because I don't really understand it, if pressed for an opinion I'd say biological sex is immutable and anything else needs to fit around that. Having said that, it is so far down my totem poll of importance that I am surprised at how much it is talked about. I suppose given the collapse of almost everything else they believe in, it is a safe space for the right of politics.

Exactly how I feel - your last sentence is very true.

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You’re right, people like her are just controversial for controversials sake. I’m not sure there needs to be a place for that but that’s where we are.

Admittedly I haven’t heard too much from her thankfully, given she tends to be appear mostly in right wing journalism, but of the few times I’ve seen her she sneered and said that climate change was complete nonsense. She gave off the air that anyone who didn’t agree with that, or couldn’t see her point just wasn’t on her level.

With regards the subject matter, like others I find the whole subject a very difficult one because it’s not something I’ve lived, or anyone close to me has lived. It’s pretty clear that a rapist who still has a penis shouldn’t be in a female prison but it seems the far right want to blow up this isolated case into a hysterical political hot potato where immigration once sat

Perhaps climate change is overstated though according to her , and she is entitled to her opinions, personally she flip flops from one agenda to the other and bear in mind OFCOM only allow her what they want her to broadcast.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Perhaps climate change is overstated though according to her , and she is entitled to her opinions, personally she flip flops from one agenda to the other and bear in mind OFCOM only allow her what they want her to broadcast.

Wait till OFCOM find out that she has 17.5 hours of TalkTV airtime each week badged as the "only safe place for fierce opinions".

Those cancel culture inquisitors will probably go ballistic.

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Wait till OFCOM find out that she has 17.5 hours of TalkTV airtime each week badged as the "only safe place for fierce opinions".

Those cancel culture inquisitors will probably go ballistic.

The thread is about BBCQT not talk radio , thanks though

[cyril evans awaydays]

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The thread is about BBCQT not talk radio , thanks though

Not about your authoritative statement that "OFCOM only allow her what they want her to broadcast" then when she has a 3.5 hour daily TV programme which falls within OFCOM's ambit where apparently all sorts of fierce opinions are actively encouraged. The rules are the same for both channels so where is your evidence that she is somehow being muzzled by OFCOM?

[Dorcus]

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This is a strange issue for me. I try and stay out of it because I don't really understand it, if pressed for an opinion I'd say biological sex is immutable and anything else needs to fit around that. Having said that, it is so far down my totem poll of importance that I am surprised at how much it is talked about. I suppose given the collapse of almost everything else they believe in, it is a safe space for the right of politics.

That pretty well sums up how I feel about it too Eric. It seems to be a subject so low down in my priorities I barely give it a thought.

However, that Hartley-Brewer harpy is just a bag of hot air full of it's own self importance so anything she is against will no doubt gain my approval.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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This is a strange issue for me. I try and stay out of it because I don't really understand it, if pressed for an opinion I'd say biological sex is immutable and anything else needs to fit around that. Having said that, it is so far down my totem poll of importance that I am surprised at how much it is talked about. I suppose given the collapse of almost everything else they believe in, it is a safe space for the right of politics.

If you're allowing men into women's spaces (as long as they say they're trans) then it technically affects half the population. I'm not sure it'll have much of an effect on any election outcome but some of the non-Conservatives are tying themselves in knots over this.

[Gofer Blue]

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The old saying "oh what a tangled web we weave..." comes to mind here. We are being coerced into believing that a person's biological sex at birth is somehow changeable. The trans lady on the QT panel (forgotten her name) admitted herself that we are talking about a tiny, tiny minority of people who want to declare themselves as "trans" and yet here we are talking about separate prisons for trans people! One lady in the audience was subjected to verbal abuse for daring to suggest that a person's sex at birth is what it is and whilst she respected that the trans lady was free to make her own choices in life, this choice was having an inordinate impact on society as a whole.

What was not mentioned on the programme was the fact that the SNP want the age of consent reduced from 18 to 16, which is one of the main reasons UK government are against the bill.