Ukraine Losses (Allegedly)

[Organ Morgan.]

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Maybe some day someone will write a book titled Pandemics are a Racket to detail who the big winners are: vaccine manufacturers, PPE makers and suppliers, etc, and also whose pockets where the backhanders go.

Returning to Smedley Butler, after he retired from army service he was approached by the very same people who later financed Hitler's rise to power and his mammoth war machine purely to fabricate another World War for them to profit from on the backs of tens of millions of dead.

He was engaged by them - mega wealthy US-based banking dynasties - to lead a force to overthrow the US government.

But he declined to then blew the whistle on the traitors. None were ever prosecuted and the whole affair was forgotten and all but memory holed.

[blue matt]

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Goodness knows what the Russian casualty count is, I’m surprised a peaceful deal hasn’t been brokered.

How can it, Russia will not leave the area's it occupies and Ukraine will not accept peace til Russia leaves Ukrainian land

as soon as the war stops, Ukraine will be looking at Nato again and why shouldn't it, Russia has proven it can not be trusted

[blue matt]

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He’s going to run out of troops at some point…..haven’t they lost more than Ukraine? Naturally they wont admit it.

300 K troop last mobilization, many were just put on trains and sent to the border for a few days training, you can imagine the carnage


I watch a few Vlogs on people who fled the country to avoid mobilization, they just dont want to be part of it

[cyril evans awaydays]

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How can it, Russia will not leave the area's it occupies and Ukraine will not accept peace til Russia leaves Ukrainian land

as soon as the war stops, Ukraine will be looking at Nato again and why shouldn't it, Russia has proven it can not be trusted

To give the gifted and talented group on here some credit they said the main reason that Russia invaded was to neutralise the bio-weapon laboratories set up on Ukranian soil with assistance from Joe Biden's son. Perhaps a deal could be brokered around putting these beyond use.

Failing that, it's what you said!

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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300 K troop last mobilization, many were just put on trains and sent to the border for a few days training, you can imagine the carnage


I watch a few Vlogs on people who fled the country to avoid mobilization, they just dont want to be part of it

Along with most in the 'west' we've viewed nearly a year of non-stop media reports painting Ukraine, it's war, it's people, and it's leaders in a favourable light. Everything Ukraine does is brave, heroic, everything Russia does is the opposite. Maybe it's not all true. Everyone supported our wars in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria - now we're learning we were fed just what government wanted us to know. There's no way the public of UK, Germany, USA etc. would tolerate governments spending £billions of taxpayers money on a war that can't be won. Not only that, should our planes and tanks kill 18yr old Russian conscripts any more that Russia kill Ukrainians ? It also doesn't help the cause of peace when Biden's wealth has come through his crackhead son via ....

[Gofer Blue]

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300 K troop last mobilization, many were just put on trains and sent to the border for a few days training, you can imagine the carnage


I watch a few Vlogs on people who fled the country to avoid mobilization, they just dont want to be part of it

Conscripts being used as cannon fodder:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11711415/How-desperate-Russian-soldiers-lives-Putins-cannon-fodder.html

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Ukraine Losses ((Allegedly)

Along with most in the 'west' we've viewed nearly a year of non-stop media reports painting Ukraine, it's war, it's people, and it's leaders in a favourable light. Everything Ukraine does is brave, heroic, everything Russia does is the opposite. Maybe it's not all true. Everyone supported our wars in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria - now we're learning we were fed just what government wanted us to know. There's no way the public of UK, Germany, USA etc. would tolerate governments spending £billions of taxpayers money on a war that can't be won. Not only that, should our planes and tanks kill 18yr old Russian conscripts any more that Russia kill Ukrainians ? It also doesn't help the cause of peace when Biden's wealth has come through his crackhead son via ....

I can't say I understand the sentence I highlighted. The public in those countries seemingly do indeed support taxpayers' money being spent on a war that can't be 'won'. (When the conflict eventually comes to a conclusion, it is almost certain that Russia will still be occupying some of Ukraine and the war will not have been 'won', as you put it.)

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I can't say I understand the sentence I highlighted. The public in those countries seemingly do indeed support taxpayers' money being spent on a war that can't be 'won'. (When the conflict eventually comes to a conclusion, it is almost certain that Russia will still be occupying some of Ukraine and the war will not have been 'won', as you put it.)

Re public opinion, it's guided, influenced by what we see, hear, read etc. Yes, we're sending planes and tanks to 'defend' Ukraine, but obviously not to kill young Russian men. Personally, as much as I abhor Putin's attack on Ukraine, I don't want British planes and tanks killing Russians, whatever the rights and wrongs of the war.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Re public opinion, it's guided, influenced by what we see, hear, read etc. Yes, we're sending planes and tanks to 'defend' Ukraine, but obviously not to kill young Russian men. Personally, as much as I abhor Putin's attack on Ukraine, I don't want British planes and tanks killing Russians, whatever the rights and wrongs of the war.

You are now moving the goalposts. Your statement was about the public in various countries and not your own take on it.

[stan butler]

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I don’t think there are any , in-fact it’s the opposite , that’s why they were posted.

Apparently according to some Russian casualties are much worse , what’s your view on that ?

My take on it is the russian military are rubbish i've said this from the start.
They have pretended to be billy big bollocks but we knew different.
The russian forces are poorly trained and most are threatened to join or else so many are either clueless or so scared they have fled ie deserted.
The elite russian regiment ( Spetsnaz ) are just ruthless thugs and no match for our very own or the deltas.

Russian ordered the Chechen special forces who they rate very highly into ukraine to do a job on the ukraine leaders only for them to get obliterated by the worlds no1 regiment
Theres no way the ukraine or nato have suffered anything like what that report says and in my opinion the ruskies are way out of their depth.

[Rjk]

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The quote from President Ursula von der Leyen should be enough. The tweet is still available, or just search Scott Ritter, and the sooner it’s resolved the better

the Von der leyen quote is clearly not the source of those statistics , and in any case it was immediately withdrawn and later clarified that it should have referred to dead and injured.

why are you so reluctant to post the source of this information you've shared, is it because it is highly dubious?

I googled Scott Ritter and found that he's a convicted paedophile! who has said that Russia is "Atticus Finch" and Ukraine is a "rabid dog" that should be killed, and that "Russia is on the right side of History ".

[Organ Morgan.]

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It's coming, chaps. The big one is on our doorstep. World War 3 is so close one can almost touch it. Sure, it'll be another racket just as the first two were. But this time around nukes are likely to fly all over to decimate the populations of North America and Western Europe.

Few want to die. Neverthless, what a honour it will be to croak in the name of Zelensky or Putin, depending on whether we've been waving a small Ukrainian or Russian plastic flag from the comfort our settees during the last year.

There's so much upside about being burned to a frazzle in nuclear blasts. As examples, stress associated with paying bills and getting the sprogs ready for school on time will disappear in an instant. Relegation fears which currently haunt the thoughts of Taunton Blue Meanie and Jon1959, among many others here, will become a trifle less important as radiation blankets most of the UK to choke the lungs of its inhabitants.

Russia prepares thousands of tanks and armoured vehicles and hundreds of fighter jets for offensive | Ukrainska Pravda https://t.co/0VSra3bFGH

— Mama2Four (@JLily10303) February 9, 2023

Russia massing 1,800 tanks, 700 aircraft & 500k men for new Ukraine assault in 10 DAYS after Zelensky begs UK for jetshttps://t.co/KZbnVRTQAf pic.twitter.com/wKwe54IEbf

— RPK Report (@RPKReport) February 9, 2023

Russian occupiers have reportedly prepared 1,800 tanks, 3,950 armored vehicles, 2,700 artillery systems and much other weaponry for renewed attacks. https://t.co/vpEeSVYNT1

— Intl. Business Times (@IBTimes) February 9, 2023

U.S. Pluto Return: Russia massed 1,800 tanks, over 700 aircraft and 500k men for a massive new offensive in the coming weeks to coincide with the first anniversary of the war on February 24th.

P.S. This is a much bigger offensive than what took place in the first wave last year. pic.twitter.com/PoEUJGCRy6

— William Stickevers (@wstickevers) February 9, 2023

[Organ Morgan.]

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The doughty Dr Vernon Coleman who has spent the thick end of three years rubbishing the Covid-19 narrative at every turn, really has the wind up about what could be coming soon re Ukraine-Russia. He seems to believe Putin is battling the globalists. He may be correct but I think he's controlled opposition working for the same banksters.

The video's 8-minutes duration: Urgent Warning to Everyone - https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/urg...rning-everyone

[Canton Kev]

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It's coming, chaps. The big one is on our doorstep. World War 3 is so close one can almost touch it.

Deja vu. Not the first time you've said this. Or the second. Or the third. Or the fourth. Or the.... etc

[lardy]

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Deja vu. Not the first time you've said this. Or the second. Or the third. Or the fourth. Or the.... etc

Here's one of them

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?453588-World-War-Three-Countdown-to-Armageddon-Thread&p=5328189&viewfull=1#post5328189