Ryan Allsop

[City123]

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It's possible to improve our goals conceded record (especially from long range) and goals scored at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Yep, statistically one of the worst in the leagues at actually preventing goals: https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1...888993797?s=20

[LA Bluebird]

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Very interesting advanced stats... I assume that last column means we are top 4/5 in the division in terms of quality of shots allowed too which says our decent number of goals allowed is far more our defense than it is Allsop.

Personally I think he's very poor at shot stopping and has clearly cost us games this year. Beaten far too easily with low shots from distance. Is he our biggest problem, no. But for a team who has consistently had top goalkeeping at this level he's our worst goalie in a long time.

[Des Parrot]

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I’d have Neil Etheridge back tomorrow.

[G rangetown Blue]

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Allsop made a great save at 0-0 1st game of the season v Norwich, a game we went on to (somehow) win, and imo has been good, and looked solid most of this season.
I think some fans, (who know nothing about goalkeeping btw), just listen to pundits on TV (who are paid to talk nonsense) a little too much, and go along with what they say.

[splott parker]

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Allsop made a great save at 0-0 1st game of the season v Norwich, a game we went on to (somehow) win, and imo has been good, and looked solid most of this season.
I think some fans, (who know nothing about goalkeeping btw), just listen to pundits on TV (who are paid to talk nonsense) a little too much, and go along with what they say.

Don’t think I’ve ever heard a pundit talk about Allsop, not that I watch them much and I doubt many give views on the goalkeeping situation down the City. I’m just not comfortable with him, his ‘strength’ I imagine is perceived to be his ‘sweeper keeper’ way of playing. This very nearly went tits up against Reading in the last home game when he just about got away with a bit of ball juggling in his six yard box. I’m just not very confident of his ability to read the situation when the opposition are in possession around the edge of the box.

[City123]

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Allsop made a great save at 0-0 1st game of the season v Norwich, a game we went on to (somehow) win, and imo has been good, and looked solid most of this season.
I think some fans, (who know nothing about goalkeeping btw), just listen to pundits on TV (who are paid to talk nonsense) a little too much, and go along with what they say.

Aye we can't move for pundits talking about Ryan Allsop...

In my view he's been poor and isn't good enough for this level, the stats and his career back that up. He's good with the ball, but his shot stopping and command of his area leave a lot to be desired

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Aye we can't move for pundits talking about Ryan Allsop...

In my view he's been poor and isn't good enough for this level, the stats and his career back that up. He's good with the ball, but his shot stopping and command of his area leave a lot to be desired

Like so many of our players, he's got some positives but he's not very good at the main part of his job.

Allsop is OK, he's played almost all of his career at the lower leagues and there's a reason for that. Still, it isn't his fault we're in this mess but if we can replace him, I would.

[the other bob wilson]

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Last week I asked LOM to produce a list of goals we’ve conceded that were clearly down to us trying to play out from the back. Such a list, even of one goal, never came and the truth is I cannot recall a single League goal we’ve conceded where we’ve presented the opposition with a goal through over playing in the same manner as, for example, Hull and Boro have to us.

So, on a similar score, can someone provide a list of, say, five goals we’ve conceded that were directly down to Allsop? I blamed him to an extent for the first goal on Saturday, but Sludge is right, the fact a shot went through someone’s legs always makes it harder to save. I thought he could have done better with Millwall’s recent goal against us, but Kipre was much more to blame in my book. There have been goals we’ve let in where I’ve asked the question could Allsop have done better, I mentioned in my last blog piece that his reactions seem fractionally slower than most Championship goalkeepers and he does give the impression that he’s a bit “heavy footed”, but I see little evidence to suggest these weaknesses are costing us a lot of goals.

I think some realism is needed here, last summer we were shopping in football’s equivalent of Poundland (until we found £1.5 million for Robinson from somewhere) and our manager at the time was prioritising a goalkeeper who was comfortable with the ball at his feet - I don’t believe we could have down much better than Allsop in those circumstances. People talk about him having been relegated twice, but one of those was with a Wycombe team with a tiny budget by Championship standards and the other was with a Derby team with a huge points deduction. I’ll also say on the subject of pundits that they’d be saying plenty about him if he was as bad as some in this thread make out. As for stats, I’d say goalkeeping stats are more subjective generally than they are for outfield players, it’s very much in the eye of the beholder.

I’ve defended a goalkeeper that I’d say is probably in the bottom third of any list of first choice Championship keepers mainly because I saw him described as “shit”. I’ve never seen a player in a Xity shirt who seriously justifies that description. I learned my lesson on that score quite recently when I learned that Cameron Toshack, my usual answer to the question who’s the worst City player you’ve seen (someone I would have called a shit footballer) had type one diabetes at the time he was with us.

[dembethewarrior]

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Don’t think I’ve ever heard a pundit talk about Allsop, not that I watch them much and I doubt many give views on the goalkeeping situation down the City. I’m just not comfortable with him, his ‘strength’ I imagine is perceived to be his ‘sweeper keeper’ way of playing. This very nearly went tits up against Reading in the last home game when he just about got away with a bit of ball juggling in his six yard box. I’m just not very confident of his ability to read the situation when the opposition are in possession around the edge of the box.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Last week I asked LOM to produce a list of goals we’ve conceded that were clearly down to us trying to play out from the back. Such a list, even of one goal, never came and the truth is I cannot recall a single League goal we’ve conceded where we’ve presented the opposition with a goal through over playing in the same manner as, for example, Hull and Boro have to us.

So, on a similar score, can someone provide a list of, say, five goals we’ve conceded that were directly down to Allsop? I blamed him to an extent for the first goal on Saturday, but Sludge is right, the fact a shot went through someone’s legs always makes it harder to save. I thought he could have done better with Millwall’s recent goal against us, but Kipre was much more to blame in my book. There have been goals we’ve let in where I’ve asked the question could Allsop have done better, I mentioned in my last blog piece that his reactions seem fractionally slower than most Championship goalkeepers and he does give the impression that he’s a bit “heavy footed”, but I see little evidence to suggest these weaknesses are costing us a lot of goals.

I think some realism is needed here, last summer we were shopping in football’s equivalent of Poundland (until we found £1.5 million for Robinson from somewhere) and our manager at the time was prioritising a goalkeeper who was comfortable with the ball at his feet - I don’t believe we could have down much better than Allsop in those circumstances. People talk about him having been relegated twice, but one of those was with a Wycombe team with a tiny budget by Championship standards and the other was with a Derby team with a huge points deduction. I’ll also say on the subject of pundits that they’d be saying plenty about him if he was as bad as some in this thread make out. As for stats, I’d say goalkeeping stats are more subjective generally than they are for outfield players, it’s very much in the eye of the beholder.

I’ve defended a goalkeeper that I’d say is probably in the bottom third of any list of first choice Championship keepers mainly because I saw him described as “shit”. I’ve never seen a player in a Xity shirt who seriously justifies that description. I learned my lesson on that score quite recently when I learned that Cameron Toshack, my usual answer to the question who’s the worst City player you’ve seen (someone I would have called a shit footballer) had type one diabetes at the time he was with us.

He's a League one keeper, that's where he plays, the reason he was at Derby and Wycombe is because were destined for League one the next season.

We could have done a lot better everyone can see that, and for at least a third of the goals he has conceded, I've thought that was a bit soft, a better keeper may have got that.

He's a weakness along with the Strikers and left back, they are the areas Sabri will be prioritising.

[WJ99mobile]

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Guess we’ll find out

[Former Labour leader]

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Allsopp bit of twat. Made 2 good saves but no need to rush out like that.

[stan butler]

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We won stop moaning and looking for negatives you misermiserable tw*ts

[Dorcus]

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We won stop moaning and looking for negatives you misermiserable tw*ts

A memorable day indeed Stan! Blooooobirds!!!

[jon1959]

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Guess we’ll find out

Is it just a one match suspension?