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    Wrexham move four points clear at the top of the National League with a convincing away win at Dagenham & Redbridge.


    Let’s hope they don’t throw it away.

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    Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

    Guaranteed a play off spot with 10 games left!

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    • #3
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      I wouldn't be surprised if having sealed promotion this season they follow it up with promotion next season too.

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        Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

        Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64794476

        Let’s hope they don’t throw it away.
        Looking down that table, there's about 9 or 10 clubs that were established League teams when I got into football.

        Proves that relegation doesn't mean a bounce back up.

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          Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

          Originally posted by bobh View Post
          Looking down that table, there's about 9 or 10 clubs that were established League teams when I got into football.

          Proves that relegation doesn't mean a bounce back up.
          And there's 5 in yet lower leagues.

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            Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
            And there's 5 in yet lower leagues.
            Thee are 8 clubs in the National League North that used to play in the Football League. Most of them are phoenix clubs but, then again, so are some clubs in the Football League itself.

            Scarborough Athletic, Chester, Boston United, Hereford, Darlington, Kidderminster Harriers, Southport and Bradford (Park Avenue).

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
              I wouldn't be surprised if having sealed promotion this season they follow it up with promotion next season too.
              Maybe, but the money isn't there to spend the way they have now on a continual basis.

              The owners didn't pay a penny for the club, were given the cub shares after promising to invest. Wrexham's Trust own the leasehold on the land, which the owners want them to relinquish - meaning their fans lose the only real leverage they have.

              They'll probably be competitive in League Two but there's only so long the documentary can go on, which will cause a loss of North American fans.

              If they get into League One, that's such a tough division right now and will only get stronger.

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                Originally posted by blue sky View Post
                Thee are 8 clubs in the National League North that used to play in the Football League. Most of them are phoenix clubs but, then again, so are some clubs in the Football League itself.

                Scarborough Athletic, Chester, Boston United, Hereford, Darlington, Kidderminster Harriers, Southport and Bradford (Park Avenue).
                Correct but I was referring to older league clubs pre the ending of the re-election process. I count these (apart from the bunch in the National League) Chester, Darlington, Southport, Bradford PA and Workington. Then there is Bury which I'm not even sure if they've reconstituted as a phoenix club yet

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                  Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
                  I wouldn't be surprised if having sealed promotion this season they follow it up with promotion next season too.
                  It's definitely a possibility but I'm not so sure. I've just gone back and looked and of the last 10 teams to be promoted, only Tranmere have been promoted to League 1 (they actually did manage back to back promotions but were relegated straight away).

                  Currently 9 of the last 10 promoted teams are still in League 2 with Macclesfield having dissolved.

                  Leyton Orient 1st
                  Stockport 6th
                  Salford 7th
                  Sutton 9th
                  Barrow 10th
                  Tranmere 12th
                  Grimsby 16th
                  Harrogate 19th
                  Hartlepool 22nd
                  Macclesfield -

                  Wrexham are on course to be crowned the best National League team ever so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish in the playoffs in their first season but I don't think they'd win those. As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games.

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                    Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

                    Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                    It's definitely a possibility but I'm not so sure. I've just gone back and looked and of the last 10 teams to be promoted, only Tranmere have been promoted to League 1 (they actually did manage back to back promotions but were relegated straight away).

                    Currently 9 of the last 10 promoted teams are still in League 2 with Macclesfield having dissolved.

                    Leyton Orient 1st
                    Stockport 6th
                    Salford 7th
                    Sutton 9th
                    Barrow 10th
                    Tranmere 12th
                    Grimsby 16th
                    Harrogate 19th
                    Hartlepool 22nd
                    Macclesfield -

                    Wrexham are on course to be crowned the best National League team ever so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish in the playoffs in their first season but I don't think they'd win those. As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games.

                    What's the latest with Macclesfield then? There was a programme on last year about them reforming and Robbie Savage was involved. Have they gone tits up again then?

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                      Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

                      Originally posted by Hot Shot Hamish. View Post
                      What's the latest with Macclesfield then? There was a programme on last year about them reforming and Robbie Savage was involved. Have they gone tits up again then?
                      Not sure about any connection to Savage but it seems a phoenix club have been founded and they're currently in the 8th tier.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macclesfield_F.C.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

                        Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                        Not sure about any connection to Savage but it seems a phoenix club have been founded and they're currently in the 8th tier.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macclesfield_F.C.
                        Here's an interesting documentary about the new Macclesfield club that Savage was involved with and which had a number of links to the club which went out of existence. 'Tis worth a gander.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat

                          Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                          It's definitely a possibility but I'm not so sure. I've just gone back and looked and of the last 10 teams to be promoted, only Tranmere have been promoted to League 1 (they actually did manage back to back promotions but were relegated straight away).

                          Currently 9 of the last 10 promoted teams are still in League 2 with Macclesfield having dissolved.

                          Leyton Orient 1st
                          Stockport 6th
                          Salford 7th
                          Sutton 9th
                          Barrow 10th
                          Tranmere 12th
                          Grimsby 16th
                          Harrogate 19th
                          Hartlepool 22nd
                          Macclesfield -

                          Wrexham are on course to be crowned the best National League team ever so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish in the playoffs in their first season but I don't think they'd win those. As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games.
                          "As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games"

                          If they continue to spend in the transfer market then they may be a "different" Wrexham next season.

                          There are no guarantees of that though, so I take your point.

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                            Originally posted by logic View Post
                            Maybe, but the money isn't there to spend the way they have now on a continual basis.

                            The owners didn't pay a penny for the club, were given the cub shares after promising to invest. Wrexham's Trust own the leasehold on the land, which the owners want them to relinquish - meaning their fans lose the only real leverage they have.

                            They'll probably be competitive in League Two but there's only so long the documentary can go on, which will cause a loss of North American fans.

                            If they get into League One, that's such a tough division right now and will only get stronger.
                            Negative Nelly.

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                            • #15
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                              I think Wrexham will be very competitive next season, should they go up.
                              They'll no doubt raid the clubs in the basement leagues, and probably add a few more good players too, given that they will probably have more to spend than most clubs in that league.

                              The club is being run in a sensible manner it seems, yet they're also willing to risk a bit of an outlay financially. That's more than what most clubs around them will be able to do.

                              I reckon they'll need a good dozen or so players though, they're definitely still shakey defensively, and probably need a good bit more in midfield.

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