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Re: Wrexham in the Driving Seat
Looking down that table, there's about 9 or 10 clubs that were established League teams when I got into football.Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
Proves that relegation doesn't mean a bounce back up.
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Thee are 8 clubs in the National League North that used to play in the Football League. Most of them are phoenix clubs but, then again, so are some clubs in the Football League itself.Originally posted by Dorcus View PostAnd there's 5 in yet lower leagues.
Scarborough Athletic, Chester, Boston United, Hereford, Darlington, Kidderminster Harriers, Southport and Bradford (Park Avenue).
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Maybe, but the money isn't there to spend the way they have now on a continual basis.Originally posted by Moodybluebird View PostI wouldn't be surprised if having sealed promotion this season they follow it up with promotion next season too.
The owners didn't pay a penny for the club, were given the cub shares after promising to invest. Wrexham's Trust own the leasehold on the land, which the owners want them to relinquish - meaning their fans lose the only real leverage they have.
They'll probably be competitive in League Two but there's only so long the documentary can go on, which will cause a loss of North American fans.
If they get into League One, that's such a tough division right now and will only get stronger.
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Correct but I was referring to older league clubs pre the ending of the re-election process. I count these (apart from the bunch in the National League) Chester, Darlington, Southport, Bradford PA and Workington. Then there is Bury which I'm not even sure if they've reconstituted as a phoenix club yetOriginally posted by blue sky View PostThee are 8 clubs in the National League North that used to play in the Football League. Most of them are phoenix clubs but, then again, so are some clubs in the Football League itself.
Scarborough Athletic, Chester, Boston United, Hereford, Darlington, Kidderminster Harriers, Southport and Bradford (Park Avenue).
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It's definitely a possibility but I'm not so sure. I've just gone back and looked and of the last 10 teams to be promoted, only Tranmere have been promoted to League 1 (they actually did manage back to back promotions but were relegated straight away).Originally posted by Moodybluebird View PostI wouldn't be surprised if having sealed promotion this season they follow it up with promotion next season too.
Currently 9 of the last 10 promoted teams are still in League 2 with Macclesfield having dissolved.
Leyton Orient 1st
Stockport 6th
Salford 7th
Sutton 9th
Barrow 10th
Tranmere 12th
Grimsby 16th
Harrogate 19th
Hartlepool 22nd
Macclesfield -
Wrexham are on course to be crowned the best National League team ever so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish in the playoffs in their first season but I don't think they'd win those. As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games.
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Originally posted by Canton Kev View PostIt's definitely a possibility but I'm not so sure. I've just gone back and looked and of the last 10 teams to be promoted, only Tranmere have been promoted to League 1 (they actually did manage back to back promotions but were relegated straight away).
Currently 9 of the last 10 promoted teams are still in League 2 with Macclesfield having dissolved.
Leyton Orient 1st
Stockport 6th
Salford 7th
Sutton 9th
Barrow 10th
Tranmere 12th
Grimsby 16th
Harrogate 19th
Hartlepool 22nd
Macclesfield -
Wrexham are on course to be crowned the best National League team ever so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish in the playoffs in their first season but I don't think they'd win those. As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games.
What's the latest with Macclesfield then? There was a programme on last year about them reforming and Robbie Savage was involved. Have they gone tits up again then?
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Not sure about any connection to Savage but it seems a phoenix club have been founded and they're currently in the 8th tier.Originally posted by Hot Shot Hamish. View PostWhat's the latest with Macclesfield then? There was a programme on last year about them reforming and Robbie Savage was involved. Have they gone tits up again then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macclesfield_F.C.
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Here's an interesting documentary about the new Macclesfield club that Savage was involved with and which had a number of links to the club which went out of existence. 'Tis worth a gander.Originally posted by Canton Kev View PostNot sure about any connection to Savage but it seems a phoenix club have been founded and they're currently in the 8th tier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macclesfield_F.C.
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"As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games"Originally posted by Canton Kev View PostIt's definitely a possibility but I'm not so sure. I've just gone back and looked and of the last 10 teams to be promoted, only Tranmere have been promoted to League 1 (they actually did manage back to back promotions but were relegated straight away).
Currently 9 of the last 10 promoted teams are still in League 2 with Macclesfield having dissolved.
Leyton Orient 1st
Stockport 6th
Salford 7th
Sutton 9th
Barrow 10th
Tranmere 12th
Grimsby 16th
Harrogate 19th
Hartlepool 22nd
Macclesfield -
Wrexham are on course to be crowned the best National League team ever so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish in the playoffs in their first season but I don't think they'd win those. As good as Wrexham are they seem to fall apart a bit in big games.
If they continue to spend in the transfer market then they may be a "different" Wrexham next season.
There are no guarantees of that though, so I take your point.
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Negative Nelly.Originally posted by logic View PostMaybe, but the money isn't there to spend the way they have now on a continual basis.
The owners didn't pay a penny for the club, were given the cub shares after promising to invest. Wrexham's Trust own the leasehold on the land, which the owners want them to relinquish - meaning their fans lose the only real leverage they have.
They'll probably be competitive in League Two but there's only so long the documentary can go on, which will cause a loss of North American fans.
If they get into League One, that's such a tough division right now and will only get stronger.
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I think Wrexham will be very competitive next season, should they go up.
They'll no doubt raid the clubs in the basement leagues, and probably add a few more good players too, given that they will probably have more to spend than most clubs in that league.
The club is being run in a sensible manner it seems, yet they're also willing to risk a bit of an outlay financially. That's more than what most clubs around them will be able to do.
I reckon they'll need a good dozen or so players though, they're definitely still shakey defensively, and probably need a good bit more in midfield.
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