Lockdown before Xmas, Welsh Intensive Care specialists

[Tuerto]

Re: Lockdown before Xmas, Welsh Intensive Care specialists

Yeah, of course, but that's not what I was getting at.

Anyway, people will obviously make up their own minds as regards whether or not to visit relatives and loved ones over the Christmas period. Nothing the politicians say or do is likely to make a difference to that. And nothing anyone says on a football message board is going to make a scrap of difference either.

Goes without saying.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Well I am prepared to make a prediction

If the powers that be announce severe restrictions or a lockdown , which is what they are being told is needed by people working to save our lives then therecis absolutely no doubt that the majority of people will abide by the rules . If the police are given powers to implement this and stop people travelling all over the place then so be it .

If people say feck it , I am going to go wherever I like and one of their loved ones gets covid then maybe thats natural justice

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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What a complete and utter bunch of half wits and shithouses

Try and be on your best behaviour for Xmas........are they having a laugh ? .......the virus will spread , then we will be tough on you after allowing you to party and then , when its too late , the NHS will have to put up with a huge surge into the new year

But we have done our best because we got tough on the 28th , after everyone mixed, went shopping and spread the virus

Donkeys , England, Scotland and Wales

[Hilts]

Re: Lockdown before Xmas, Welsh Intensive Care specialists

What a complete and utter bunch of half wits and shithouses

Try and be on your best behaviour for Xmas........are they having a laugh ? .......the virus will spread , then we will be tough on you after allowing you to party and then , when its too late , the NHS will have to put up with a huge surge into the new year

But we have done our best because we got tough on the 28th , after everyone mixed, went shopping and spread the virus

Donkeys , England, Scotland and Wales

At least Retail is closing in Wales on the 24th Sludge.

The sales would have seen packed shopping centres again.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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At least Retail is closing in Wales on the 24th Sludge.

The sales would have seen packed shopping centres again.

Its pissing in the wind though isn't it ?

The doctors and viral experts say lockdown ff sake

The politicians don't have the bollocks to do what they are advised

Feck em

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Its pissing in the wind though isn't it ?

The doctors and viral experts say lockdown ff sake

The politicians don't have the bollocks to do what they are advised

Feck em

Given the public reaction to closing pubs early and not being allowed to sell alcohol, I understand why they don't want to. I think most people know that a full lockdown is needed but doing it before Christmas will only result in more angry people and arguably more people deciding to do what the hell they want anyway.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Given the public reaction to closing pubs early and not being allowed to sell alcohol, I understand why they don't want to. I think most people know that a full lockdown is needed but doing it before Christmas will only result in more angry people and arguably more people deciding to do what the hell they want anyway.

This is a serious virus that is killing people and killing people on the front line

Emergency legislation should be passed now that means instead of the police issuing people with a fine or giving them a ticket cars are clamped and people having house parties are rounded up , put in a van and taken down the station and nicked .

Obey the rules , stop poncing about giving directives or suggestions and get a grip .

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Lockdown before Xmas, Welsh Intensive Care specialists

This is a serious virus that is killing people and killing people on the front line

Emergency legislation should be passed now that means instead of the police issuing people with a fine or giving them a ticket cars are clamped and people having house parties are rounded up , put in a van and taken down the station and nicked .

Obey the rules , stop poncing about giving directives or suggestions and get a grip .

Manchester police failed to record 80,000 crimes in 1 year - that's over 200 each day, including sexual violence, assault, rape, manslaughter, but let's arrest folk for having a party.

Then again, it's probably something Plod would sent a small army to attend.

[life on mars]

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I’d say one thing this past yr has taught a lot of people, or hopefully it will, is if and when life gets back to some form of normality, then folk should spend a lot more time with family members, especially parents, if they are lucky enough to still be alive.
I’ve never understood families who only get together at Christmas. How ever busy you are, there are more important things in life.
Fair enough, if you live so far away it makes it almost impossible to visit regularly, but there are many folk who could make more effort, but choose not to for what ever reason, then regret it when it’s too late..

Yes its a strange one its almost as if oh well we have to see them at some point in the year I do find all this emotion over Xmas amusing to say the least . I'm sure that there are some really genuine Xmas get together's , however I should imagine there is fair few who feel obligated to do the right thing at that time of the year which is lovely , but lets now kid ourselves their will be lots who think oh god no not again its Xmas and cringe worth family party games and repeat stories .

There has been many a comedy drama about Xmas and families to back this theory up , guess this year its rather more poignant though for the elderly and vulnerable .

[Tuerto]

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Its pissing in the wind though isn't it ?

The doctors and viral experts say lockdown ff sake

The politicians don't have the bollocks to do what they are advised

Feck em

There has to be a balance, Sludge, when there is compromise you would hope that people are sensible, or at least the majority, that's what the governments are banking on. There also has to be an element of risk if people are going to have a semblance of normality during a period that means a lot to some. I'm fine with that. I don't see this as a them against us situation, it's a terrible position for all sides of the political divide to be in. The state have to allow some normality, with certain restrictions, and they can't pander to the cretins and negligent amongst us. That would make a mockery of living in a democracy.

[life on mars]

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Apparently mass testing is a waste of time is that why we've not seen much of it in wales , its seems at odds with the political battle goings on in England where the test ,trace and isolate mantra has been chucked about for a very long time ??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55283183

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Manchester police failed to record 80,000 crimes in 1 year - that's over 200 each day, including sexual violence, assault, rape, manslaughter, but let's arrest folk for having a party.

Then again, it's probably something Plod would sent a small army to attend.

Couldn't care two fecks about greater Manchester police

The government need to bring in tough rules to stop this virus spreading , which is killing people

They need to do it now and people fecking about should be nicked

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Lockdown before Xmas, Welsh Intensive Care specialists

There has to be a balance, Sludge, when there is compromise you would hope that people are sensible, or at least the majority, that's what the governments are banking on. There also has to be an element of risk if people are going to have a semblance of normality during a period that means a lot to some. I'm fine with that. I don't see this as a them against us situation, it's a terrible position for all sides of the political divide to be in. The state have to allow some normality, with certain restrictions, and they can't pander to the cretins and negligent amongst us. That would make a mockery of living in a democracy.

Well either the medical profession are correct or Joe public are

I am siding with the doctors

[The Lone Gunman]

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There has to be a balance, Sludge.....

Balance? Are you joking?!? Read this thread again.

"Sorry kids, it's time to cancel Christmas," says a man with no kids.

"No families meeting up for Christmas, lockdown, simple as that," says a guy who wouldn't have been meeting up with his family even if Covid-19 had never existed.

"Football, you can shove it," says a fella who frequently tells us he hates modern football. On a modern football message board.

"Gigs, get fecked," says a man who never goes to gigs.

"Pubs with people getting pissed up, no chance," says a guy who never goes to pubs as is not able to drink alcohol.

"The shops are packed with people carrying bags of presents. This country is full of brain dead idiots," says a fella who has no presents to buy.

"I couldn't give a toss if Christmas is an important time for some," says a man who doesn't like Christmas or anything else other than wanking, fishing and dreadful music.

"People having house parties should be rounded up, put in a van, taken down the station and nicked," says a bloke who clearly doesn't understand how the virus spreads, but who has apparently appointed himself as a spokesman for the medical profession.

Balance, be bolloxed.

[life on mars]

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Couldn't care two fecks about greater Manchester police

The government need to bring in tough rules to stop this virus spreading , which is killing people

They need to do it now and people fecking about should be nicked

I think people who don't care , who wont follow the rules , are treating peoples lives ,thats the key balance for me .

PS dont go to Asda folk don't give a feck as they rush to the the Carling offers