The Lamouchi effect

[Eric the Half a Bee]

10 games in charge - 3 wins, a draw and 6 defeats; scored 9, conceded 13. That's an average of 1 point a game.

Here's a look at some basic stats, a before and after his appointment.

Win average: 0.25 (before) / 0.3 (since his appointment)
Defeat average: 0.46 (before) / 0.6 (since)
Points per game: 1.04 / 1
Goals scored per game: 0.75 / 0.9
Goals conceded per game: 1.11 / 1.3
Failed to score percentage: 46% / 40%
Clean sheets: 32% / 30%
Shots per game: 11.5 / 12.4
Shots on target: 26% / 28%
Shots on our goal per game: 10.9 / 10.3
Passes per game: 401 / 342
Pass accuracy: 76% / 70%
Tackles per game: 20.8 / 20.6
Tackle success: 78% / 68%
Possession: 48.6% / 44.2%

A brief synopsis of Lamouchi's style has been to get the ball forward more quickly. This has resulted in us managing around 1 shot more per game on goal and has meant us scoring slightly more goals on average.

The down side has been that we've been slightly worse defensively, conceding more goals per game despite allowing slightly fewer attempts on target. We've conceded 2 or more goals under Lamouchi more often than we did under Morison/Hudson.

Has Lamouchi really done that much for us so far?

[City123]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

Not a great deal can be done with this squad. They aren't good enough.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

Not a great deal can be done with this squad. They aren't good enough.

Yet he’s barely given an opportunity to a couple of Welsh players who I think were generally considered to be good enough this time last year and he’s bombed out a full back who scored in three straight games little over a year ago. You may be right to say the squad’s not good enough, but some of them have barely been given a chance by Lamouchi.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

Yet he’s barely given an opportunity to a couple of Welsh players who I think were generally considered to be good enough this time last year and he’s bombed out a full back who scored in three straight games little over a year ago. You may be right to say the squad’s not good enough, but some of them have barely been given a chance by Lamouchi.

I'd also add that he's made some quite mystifying team selections as well. I'm far from saying he'd get us into the playoffs, but, for me, the verdict is still out.

[City123]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

Yet he’s barely given an opportunity to a couple of Welsh players who I think were generally considered to be good enough this time last year and he’s bombed out a full back who scored in three straight games little over a year ago. You may be right to say the squad’s not good enough, but some of them have barely been given a chance by Lamouchi.

I agree that certain players haven't been given a proper chance by Lamouchi. I've long called for Colwill and Davies' inclusion on here and feel we would have benefitted from Davies' pace in pressurising Swansea today. Hopefully Colwill's cameo earns him some more game time as Ojo really isn't the answer

All that being said, I look at the squad and there's nobody there who I'd say is a top Championship player. I've said on here before that I feel Kipre and O'Dowda in particular are over-rated by our fans and whilst decent performers for us are really little more than average Championship players. I think it's quite telling of the level of this squad that they're considered undroppable

[Jordi Culé]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

I'd also add that he's made some quite mystifying team selections as well. I'm far from saying he'd get us into the playoffs, but, for me, the verdict is still out.

The first 30 minutes today were as farcical and could've been as embarrassing as last seasons home game v Jack's.

They get an early goal, chances created at will and they're phucking waltzing around the park like springer spaniels.

We stuck to the same game plan. Morison got slaughtered for doing similar last season.

[UNDERHILL1927]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

The first 30 minutes today were as farcical and could've been as embarrassing as last seasons home game v Jack's.

They get an early goal, chances created at will and they're phucking waltzing around the park like springer spaniels.

We stuck to the same game plan. Morison got slaughtered for doing similar last season.

Springer Spaniels haha.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

The first 30 minutes today were as farcical and could've been as embarrassing as last seasons home game v Jack's.

They get an early goal, chances created at will and they're phucking waltzing around the park like springer spaniels.

We stuck to the same game plan. Morison got slaughtered for doing similar last season.

Philogene's corker sparked us into life and we scared them for the rest of the first half, just by having a go, putting a bit of effort in and getting amongst them. Second half, and while it was better, it was still too placid and we looked less likely to score than Sludge.

[Cleve van Leef]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

He’s not good enough and the players aren’t either. Big changes required next season, BIG CHANGES. League 1 or not.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

He’s not good enough and the players aren’t either. Big changes required next season, BIG CHANGES. League 1 or not.

Absolutely. Will they happen? Probably not. I said earlier in the season that, unless there are big changes, not so much playing staff but at board level, we'll end up in League 1 at some point soon. At the moment we're kicking the can down the road hoping for a miracle.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

I think other than an instant hit like Warnock he’s been good. Obviously it’s not his type of squad but he has tried with what we had. Today was as expected, a shit show. A Rotherham win if it happened would have helped.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

Not a great deal can be done with this squad. They aren't good enough.

And SL is getting performances out of a lot of them. This is a dire side, he got a lot of things wrong yesterday. Robinson and Etete are huge misses and I think Sawyers only got back on Friday.

I back Sabri. He’s got a decent record since his first few games where he realised what a shambles he’d walked into, and it would potentially have been better had the heavens not opened at Rotherham.

[olderblue]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

He is trying to get the best out of what we have, from Super Steve's (in his own mind) fantastic recruitment policy in the summer.

In reality, we have too many players who just aren't up to Championship standard.

He has to get a tune out of them somehow, but isn't helped when we have players who just seem to lack the right mentality and/or have little enthusiasm for a battle.
You could have replaced Ojo with someone from the Ninian stand yesterday and got a better response

[EastbourneBlue]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

10 games in charge - 3 wins, a draw and 6 defeats; scored 9, conceded 13. That's an average of 1 point a game.

Here's a look at some basic stats, a before and after his appointment.

Win average: 0.25 (before) / 0.3 (since his appointment)
Defeat average: 0.46 (before) / 0.6 (since)
Points per game: 1.04 / 1
Goals scored per game: 0.75 / 0.9
Goals conceded per game: 1.11 / 1.3
Failed to score percentage: 46% / 40%
Clean sheets: 32% / 30%
Shots per game: 11.5 / 12.4
Shots on target: 26% / 28%
Shots on our goal per game: 10.9 / 10.3
Passes per game: 401 / 342
Pass accuracy: 76% / 70%
Tackles per game: 20.8 / 20.6
Tackle success: 78% / 68%
Possession: 48.6% / 44.2%

A brief synopsis of Lamouchi's style has been to get the ball forward more quickly. This has resulted in us managing around 1 shot more per game on goal and has meant us scoring slightly more goals on average.

The down side has been that we've been slightly worse defensively, conceding more goals per game despite allowing slightly fewer attempts on target. We've conceded 2 or more goals under Lamouchi more often than we did under Morison/Hudson.

Has Lamouchi really done that much for us so far?

I think he’s done enough to suggest he knows what he’s doing. Stay up this year and I’d be confident of a mid table finish next year. Dream big!

[billy.ronson]

Re: The Lamouchi effect

Yet he’s barely given an opportunity to a couple of Welsh players who I think were generally considered to be good enough this time last year and he’s bombed out a full back who scored in three straight games little over a year ago. You may be right to say the squad’s not good enough, but some of them have barely been given a chance by Lamouchi.

To be fair, Bagan has hardly been in the match day squad all season regardless of manager. After we lost Collins who was looking good even Morison turned to O'Dowda ahead of Bagan