McCarthy to Celtic.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

He's a billy boy isn't he?

FFS ...

[xsnaggle]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

FFS ...

Well is he or isn't he?

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

I think it’s fair to say that Celtic have huge delusions of grandeur.
Reasonably big club playing in a pub league.
An embarrassment in Europe every year losing out to other “mickey mouse” clubs from third world countries
The money, opportunities to win local silverware and play in Europe will ensure they get a decent manager, but any achievements on his CV will be tempered by the lack of any opposition in the league.

I am sure Rangers will try and run them close again next season .

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

Well is he or isn't he?

He is a Celt . Used to play for them .
When we were put out in red , he said it was fine , it was only a colour . So he was asked about Celtic changing from the green and white to say , red ..
He skipped the question ...

[Rjk]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

Reasonably big is underselling them a bit, Wolves are a reasonably big club, Celtic are easily one of the biggest clubs in Britain

don't underestimate the decline of Scottish football over the last couple of decades though, money has left the game.
most championship clubs get way more revenue than almost all of the spl.

the job is a bit of a poisoned chalice as well I'd say. whoever goes in basically has to win multiple trophies not to be considered a failure.

I can't see someone walking out in Rb saltzburg who dominate the Austrian league, and have had some good European campaigns recently, and where there's a good chance that you could get shifted up.to r b Leipzig when someone comes in for nagelsmann.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

Well, I for one hope Cardiff keep McCarthy on after the season ends.
But then, we all said the same thing about Harris, didn't we?

No we didn't. He cost us the playoffs.

Also don't want MM here longer than this season, that's not to say he isn't doing an excellent job which of course he is. He is doing what we brought him in to do and that's a short term fix and doing it brilliantly.

[City123]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

He's a billy boy isn't he?

Ex-Celtic defender Malky Mackay?

[City123]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

don't underestimate the decline of Scottish football over the last couple of decades though, money has left the game.
most championship clubs get way more revenue than almost all of the spl.

the job is a bit of a poisoned chalice as well I'd say. whoever goes in basically has to win multiple trophies not to be considered a failure.

I can't see someone walking out in Rb saltzburg who dominate the Austrian league, and have had some good European campaigns recently, and where there's a good chance that you could get shifted up.to r b Leipzig when someone comes in for nagelsmann.

I'm not saying he'll definitely go, but Celtic are on another level to most clubs. In spite of the poor standards of Scottish football they averaged 57,000 fans

Having to win trophies and dominating a poor European league would hardly be a huge change in circumstance for someone who managed Salzburg, but Celtic certainly have a higher ceiling. Getting them into Europe with the European money flowing in limits the importance of domestic TV revenues

[dml1954]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

No we didn't. He cost us the playoffs.

Also don't want MM here longer than this season, that's not to say he isn't doing an excellent job which of course he is. He is doing what we brought him in to do and that's a short term fix and doing it brilliantly.

So, scenario for you. We get into play offs, win the final and get promoted to Premier League and then your recommendation would be to get rid of Mick McCarthy !! Some people will just never admit they are wrong.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Really ? You dont mind hoof ball as long as we are winning?

Really ?

100%, if you would choose quality of football over winning then I don't know what to say to you

[dml1954]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

100%, if you would choose quality of football over winning then I don't know what to say to you

Agree. Whats the point of trying to play like Barcelona or Brazil every week if you lose every game and get relegated ? The stadium would soon be empty and people would be queuing up on here to request the manager be sacked.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

100%, if you would choose quality of football over winning then I don't know what to say to you

I want football that wont make your eyes bleed .

You are saying whatever I am served up ,I should be happy as long as we win?

Nah I have had enough of that . The last time the football was truly enjoyable was Dave Jones era .

I want to be entertained . Not every minute of every game but at least some kind of excitement.

I was happy to pay my money when Lee Tomlin was playing.

I know what I need to say to you though. I understand your point of view . You are entitled to it.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

Agree. Whats the point of trying to play like Barcelona or Brazil every week if you lose every game and get relegated ? The stadium would soon be empty and people would be queuing up on here to request the manager be sacked.

You cant play decent football and win?

There is no future in hit and hope football in the modern game.

There is of course a place for the long ball, mix it up though.

[splott parker]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

You cant play decent football and win?

There is no future in hit and hope football in the modern game.

There is of course a place for the long ball, mix it up though.

And we are mixing it up Jim, we’ve been knocking it about quite frequently lately. Some of our longish balls have been played with a purpose rather than hit and hope, Murphy’s long cross for Bennett’s winner at Rotherham was spot on. We’re the second highest scorers in the division, they can’t all have been from free kicks, corners & throw ins, some have been beauties. I like good football but knocking it back and forth without any progress is mind numbing to me, different if you’re Man City and the passing moves you up the pitch and invariably ends up in the net but we can but dream to attain that level. Becoming a ‘square ball’ team would leave me cold and that’s how some teams have played against us, not for me. The ball in the back of the net is the be all and end all really and we’re not doing too bad in that respect.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

These conversations usually end the same way with two camps talking about the extremes of the long ball and passing games. For myself, I belong more in the latter camp than the former one, but that doesn’t mean I want endless passing, I want better passing than we’ve seen at Cardiff for the best part of ten years. Our best passer of the ball, who has been playing well lately, gave away a goal on Wednesday because he presented the ball straight to our opponents - it would be wrong to say it was a simple pass Pack messed up, but it wasn’t that difficult.

I think the way we’ve played recently has been effective and it has had quality to it - we’re more effective going forward because we’re not leaving our striker to fight by himself thereby allowing our match winners to get involved in areas where they can change games. What I’ve never been able to understand in the last decade though is why however we’ve tried to play the game since 2014, it has to be done with consistently low passing accuracy figures - do you have to sacrifice the ability to pass the ball well if you opt to play like we’ve done under Slade, Warnock, Harris and McCarthy?