Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

[Former Labour leader]

MM said today that Tomlin was nowhere near ready to play the way Wilson and Murphy do. Given that his fitness has never been at the sort of level that you need to play a pressing game, I doubt we will ever see him start while MM is in charge, and a place on the bench even, not guaranteed.

[Rjk]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

he played in that formation for the u23s against Bristol

[DubaiDai]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

he played in that formation for the u23s against Bristol

I cannot see MM happy with 25-30 minute cameo roles, which is now all Tomlin can offer.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

I've felt since he arrived when he talks about Tomlin he isn't keen.

[life on mars]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

If the rumors about attitude are true then no he has no future with no nonsense Mick, think he spotted Wilson has petulance and that is why he may have initially benched him , however he has got Murphy working so who knows .

I wonder if Tomlin will never be fit or fast around the pitch for Micks high up pressing game , Mick likes nippy forwards /midfielders/wing backs closing down creating error .

[xsnaggle]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

He'll only play if they have a game in the treatment room.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

He looks a bit chunky in the u23 videos. However, if we're 1-0 down with 15-20 to play I'd chuck him on. He's got that magic that few players at this level have. Mick seems less than impressed by his fitness levels.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

He looks a bit chunky in the u23 videos. However, if we're 1-0 down with 15-20 to play I'd chuck him on. He's got that magic that few players at this level have. Mick seems less than impressed by his fitness levels.

That’s my thinking, I’m not sure if even a very fit Tomlin would be able to press opposition players for an hour like Wilson and Murphy have been doing lately, but that shouldn’t stop him being on the bench to come on and, hopefully, influence games in the last half an hour - never mind us, there are not many sides in this division with players to come off the bench who can do what an in form Tomlin can.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

MM said today that Tomlin was nowhere near ready to play the way Wilson and Murphy do. Given that his fitness has never been at the sort of level that you need to play a pressing game, I doubt we will ever see him start while MM is in charge, and a place on the bench even, not guaranteed.

I believe you're right. To play MM's style of pressing football requires stamina, I doubt Tomlin will get anywhere near the level needed.

[Moodybluebird]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

As others have said, I would be very surprised if Tomlin starts a game under MM. He is just not the type of player to close down the opposition, which seems to be the mainstay of MM's tactics so far. However, if we're chasing a game and look like we're running out of ideas, a fully fit Tomlin would seem to be the ideal solution. So yes, I believe he does have an important part to play, just not as a starter

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

It saddens me that we have a player with the talent of Tomlin and he isnt guaranteed some time on the field.
He doesn't chase back enough?
So what! he has fantastic talent , he changes and wins games.

[xsnaggle]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

It saddens me that we have a player with the talent of Tomlin and he isnt guaranteed some time on the field.
He doesn't chase back enough?
So what! he has fantastic talent , he changes and wins games.

But he is lazy totally unreliable and doesn't give a toss. He isn't brilliant or anything else when he is sitting on his arse in the treatment room taking his wages week after week. Even recovering from injury is fraught with complications when he is not fit enough to train in the first place. And he doesn't change games for the better when he gets red carded for fouling someone he cannot cope with because of his own unfitness.
Waste of space.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

But he is lazy totally unreliable and doesn't give a toss. He isn't brilliant or anything else when he is sitting on his arse in the treatment room taking his wages week after week. Even recovering from injury is fraught with complications when he is not fit enough to train in the first place. And he doesn't change games for the better when he gets red carded for fouling someone he cannot cope with because of his own unfitness.
Waste of space.

I know.
I forgot.

[Rjk]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

It saddens me that we have a player with the talent of Tomlin and he isnt guaranteed some time on the field.
He doesn't chase back enough?
So what! he has fantastic talent , he changes and wins games.

it's not just he doesn't chase back - we've been making chances recently by aggressively pressing opposition defenders, hunting them down in packs.
if someone isn't willing or able to join in with that then It becomes really ineffective.
yes he can create something from nothing when he's got the ball, but the way we are playing at the moment we hardly have the ball

[surge]

Re: Has Tomlin a place in a MM side?

We've seen how effective Murphy, Wilson, Ojo can be behind Moore but we also know, maybe, Moore cannot play 90 minutes every game. We have our first choice formation and personal but need something behind that.

Tomlin, as the best out and out 10, behind Harris and Watters would give opposition something different to think about, give Moore a rest and be more threatening than Harris or Watters up front on their own or, probably, with one of the aforementioned attacking midfielders behind them. Harris and Watters can then do bulk of the work Wilson, Murphy, Ojo have been doing.