Lamouchi - what did he ever do for us ?

[EastbourneBlue]

Re: Lamouchi - what did he ever do for us ?

...apart from securing Championship safety. Actually, did we survive because of Lamouchi, or despite Lamouchi ? We're no better than we have been throughout the season. We don't look as if we play any different. We can't even take a decent corner. Results ? We've average 1.17 points per game under his management - 1.22 under Morison.

If he stays, he may improve the team with good loan signings and free transfers, but I'm not sure what the desperation is to keep him for another season. I would prefer Nathan Jones - if he would come.

I don’t think there’s any doubt we’d be down with Morison or Hudson

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Think he probably meant last season as well. I tend to agree with the OP about the desperation to sign him up - would Morison and Hudson won those three recent away games for us? Possibly, but I don’t think we’d have scored eight goals in doing it. Lamouchi has improved our goalscoring and he did well to get us averaging more than a goal a game given our previous scoring rate. However, after a good start with a bold approach that helped beat Reading and the wurzels, I’d say recent home performances have, if anything, been worse than earlier in the season under our other two managers.

Exactly. You'd hope for a semblance of change - perhaps something as simple as cutting out basic errors and being able to put in a basic corner -things that even the weakest of squads could be taught on the training ground. I'm not saying that Lamouchi staying won't work, just that I haven't seen any evidence from watching the team play that it's likely to.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I don’t think there’s any doubt we’d be down with Morison or Hudson

Titanic

[The Lone Gunman]

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I'm not saying that Lamouchi staying won't work, just that I haven't seen any evidence from watching the team play that it's likely to.

I concur.

[Trigger]

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With the squad as it is I don't think there's a lot between Morrison and Lamouchi. We scored less with Morrison but we didn't have Kaba.

The club shouldn't be held to ransom by Lamouchi but I wouldn't be against him getting a chance to show what he can do without us immediately being in relegation trouble. Some consistency at least.

Needs to massively improve performances though, he was in charge for his share of dire performances, particularly at home.

People saying you can't polish a turd, well he's going to have to try, some managers certainly do get more from their players.

[sneggyblubird]

Re: Lamouchi - what did he ever do for us ?

...apart from securing Championship safety. Actually, did we survive because of Lamouchi, or despite Lamouchi ? We're no better than we have been throughout the season. We don't look as if we play any different. We can't even take a decent corner. Results ? We've average 1.17 points per game under his management - 1.22 under Morison.

If he stays, he may improve the team with good loan signings and free transfers, but I'm not sure what the desperation is to keep him for another season. I would prefer Nathan Jones - if he would come.

The body language on the pitch was terrible under the last couple of matches with Hudson. He took a busted flush and got a tune out of them. Would Nathan Jones be able to take the flak from fans when he hasn't delivered a top of the league side in 5mins.

[RichardM]

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Morison had lost the plot

Lamouchi or a similar type of manager should have been appointed immediately

No he didn't. We had a fortunate win on the opening day and a freak first half at Boro after he started to panic and change shape, which he almost managed to chuck away in the second half. Despite that we were still heading downwards, we'd have been in the same situation had he stayed on until January and was sacked when Hudson was, maybe even worse

Morison was not a good manager, there's a reason no club's gone anywhere near him

I prefer Lamouchi to Morison. I based what I said on

We've average 1.17 points per game under his management - 1.22 under Morison

On the face of it that indicates that Morison was better

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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Lamouchi

Nathan Jones cracked at Southampton

This may not be a big Premier league job but the pressure put on Cardiff managers from the fans and the media is way above what it should be

Is it like that anymore? Fans have been quite sedate in comparison to years gone by and journalists seem wary of losing access to the club and are often quite forgiving. One who writes for the Echo posted on twitter yesterday his thoughts about last summer's recruitment and gave it 8/10. This is hardly the Italian press these days.

[Des Parrot]

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A choice between Lamouchi and Nathan Jones - you choose.

Graham Potter, he’s also redundant and looks like Brenda will pip him for the Southampton job.

[Dave Blue]

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We may have just stayed up due to points deduction. I think Lamouchi realised it was a tall order when he saw the lack of ability in the squad so in one way it was an achievement. There much I’m still concerned with but am willing to see how he goes next year with ‘his team’.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Is it like that anymore?

Of course it isn’t. The fanbase is remarkably placid these days, shockingly so at times, while the local press are just utterly pathetic. The idea that managers and players are under more pressure here than at most Championship clubs is pure nonsense.

[TWGL1]

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Of course it isn’t. The fanbase is remarkably placid these days, shockingly so at times, while the local press are just utterly pathetic. The idea that managers and players are under more pressure here than at most Championship clubs is pure nonsense.

It’s only placid because the club will hand out 5 game bans just for things like chanting. You can also get banned retroactively if you’re picked up on CCTV doing something the club don’t like.

Not saying it’s a bad thing but no wonder it’s placid down the City these days.

[logic]

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On the face of it that indicates that Morison was better

It's a selective statistic.

Were the games Morison had against stronger, weaker or same quality sides Lamouchi faced?
Gan points from losing positions? Lose points from winning positions?

It's all subjective and prone to interpretation. You can frame the stats to make any claim you want, within reason.

[logic]

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It’s only placid because the club will hand out 5 game bans just for things like chanting. You can also get banned retroactively if you’re picked up on CCTV doing something the club don’t like.

Not saying it’s a bad thing but no wonder it’s placid down the City these days.

Who has received a 5 game ban just for "chanting" or do you mean "offensive chanting"? Who has been banned for doing something the club "don't like"?

Seems like you want to downgrade a hell of a lot of stuff to just "banter".

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Of course it isn’t. The fanbase is remarkably placid these days, shockingly so at times, while the local press are just utterly pathetic. The idea that managers and players are under more pressure here than at most Championship clubs is pure nonsense.

Absolute bollocks to both of you

There is far more media input here due to BBC Wales, HTV , Radio Wales than most championship clubs

Our fans expect far too much given our income and its always been the same

Steve Tucker wasn't exactly watergate level but he had a go