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[EastbourneBlue]

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2022/23

Before Lamouchi/Under Lamouchi

Scored per game - 0.75/1.11
Conceded per game - 1.11/1.5

2013/14

Before Solskjaer/Under Solskjaer

Scored per game - 0.75/0.94
Conceded per game - 1.6/2.3

The only worthwhile question is could we realistically attract anyone better given the dire position we find ourselves?

I think the answer is no.

[the other bob wilson]

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Would Nathan Jones do a better job next season? He knows the League better.

I think he would, I could be wrong, but I can't see him coming here under this ownership.

[olderblue]

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I think he would, I could be wrong, but I can't see him coming here under this ownership.

I would like to see Nathan Jones, here or alternatively Mark Robins who has done a brilliant job at Coventry on what appears to be more of whip round than a budget!

Being realistic though would either of them fancy coming here under the current owner?

I don’t know how Sabri is going to shape up, if he gets the nod , one thing I’m convinced of is that Pep wouldn’t have got a tune out of the crap we have masquerading as footballers.

No creativity, little pace, no bottle, we’ve had crap representing us before, but it’s hard to remember a team that was so ponderous, gutless and lacking in basic skills than this current lot.

If by some miracle we kept Kipre and Kaba, we would still need 5-6 half decent Championship players who would be up to Championship standards.

I’ve said before, I don’t think anyone could have got a tune out of this dross, SL kept us up and if he can shift out the deadwood and is allowed to bring in the players required, then he might have a fighting chance.

[Hilts]

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I would like to see Nathan Jones, here or alternatively Mark Robins who has done a brilliant job at Coventry on what appears to be more of whip round than a budget!

Being realistic though would either of them fancy coming here under the current owner?

I don’t know how Sabri is going to shape up, if he gets the nod , one thing I’m convinced of is that Pep wouldn’t have got a tune out of the crap we have masquerading as footballers.

No creativity, little pace, no bottle, we’ve had crap representing us before, but it’s hard to remember a team that was so ponderous, gutless and lacking in basic skills than this current lot.

If by some miracle we kept Kipre and Kaba, we would still need 5-6 half decent Championship players who would be up to Championship standards.

I’ve said before, I don’t think anyone could have got a tune out of this dross, SL kept us up and if he can shift out the deadwood and is allowed to bring in the players required, then he might have a fighting chance.

I think no bottle is harsh.

Going away to Rotherham after being robbed weeks earlier and coming from behind to win at Watford in key away games shows there is bottle there.

Talent wise we are very poor. I worry about Lamouchi though as tactically and selection wise ive not been impressed.

However hopefully a full pre-season and his own players will see us more comfortable next season.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Before Lamouchi:

21st in the table, 3 points above the relegation zone.

End of season:

21st in the table, 5 points above the relegation zone, but only because Reading had 6 points deducted after Lamouchi took over.

Warnock did so much better didn't he, with a worse team and harder fixtures!

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I think he would, I could be wrong, but I can't see him coming here under this ownership.

Agreed, but he is the only one I would pick above Sabri, he had a tough job with a fading weak squad.

[Maurice Swan]

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My held opinion has been that Lamouche has done some decent work here in at least getting the three away winds that basically kept us up. However I have doubts in that I cannot understand how a good manager can keep picking Ojo, SImpson, Wickham (ok..maybe forced by his loan..), even Rhinomoto and Sawyers. There has to be youth players with more passion, energy and yes, talent than these.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I know Lamouchi has had a shit group of players to work with, but there's something about him that makes me think twice.

Once was enough for me !

[Brian]

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He did inherit a squad that were struggling but didn't do much better than Morison or Hudson. He also had the benefit of Sory Kaba which the others didn't have and his goals undoubtedly saved us.

He's said Kipre and Kaba would both like to come back, which if true would sway it for me to give him a chance for another contract. I think the we've got the basis of a decent team and if he can be backed with a few more signings then it may be a case better the devil you know.

[Rjk]

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Warnock did so much better didn't he, with a worse team and harder fixtures!

warnocks schtick works really well in the short term, motivator type managers need something else to turn to when the team has already heard all of their stories and motivations 5 times before.

[LA Bluebird]

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Kaba and Kipre can say what they want about coming back, unless they are going to be released or their clubs are willing to let them go out on loan again without a fee it’s a moot point.

The more I think about it the less I like Lamouchi, we say the club needs a strategy and yet knowing he’s under a transfer fee embargo he showed no interest in playing some of the squad or young players who will be here next year in meaningless games, he got his tactics and lineups woefully wrong on a number of occasions, a lot of real Jekyll and Hyde stuff and but for a points deduction or two he would have taken us down. With that being said I also don’t see many options out there that are better who would realistically consider coming here.

Hard to come to any other conclusion that without significant top down change at the club we will continue to slide and will be odds on favorites to be in a relegation battle next season no matter who the manager is.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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He showed no interest in playing some of the squad or young players who will be here next year in meaningless games

I think that says it all on how highly he rates them. I was shocked he hooked Colwill yesterday but he clearly doesn't rate Bagan at all (despite what he said). Ojo must look incredible in training but he's completely shot.

Re the squad players, basically the entire squad has been used recently! Simpson, Alnwick, Rino, Harris, Ojo, Sawyers, Davies, Colwill etc

[Wash DC Blue]

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It’s annoying that we don’t seem to be speaking to Nathan Jones.

I think he’d be great here.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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He did inherit a squad that were struggling but didn't do much better than Morison or Hudson. He also had the benefit of Sory Kaba which the others didn't have and his goals undoubtedly saved us.

He's said Kipre and Kaba would both like to come back, which if true would sway it for me to give him a chance for another contract. I think the we've got the basis of a decent team and if he can be backed with a few more signings then it may be a case better the devil you know.

Robinson was a big loss for him, he was starting to hit some form then the injury made it difficult for us, thank God for Kaba or we would have gone down.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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warnocks schtick works really well in the short term, motivator type managers need something else to turn to when the team has already heard all of their stories and motivations 5 times before.

I quite like Sabri, but maybe if we had got Warnock in to kee us up, easily, we would have had more options now?

But it is what it is, and I would keep him, Nathan Jones would be interesting though, but a gamble as he failed at Southampton and Stoke, knowing and loving the club, would he work here?