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  • #16
    Re: Steve Morison

    Originally posted by City123 View Post
    I can't quite believe this, but he's apparently been appointed as first team manager by Hornchurch FC of the... Pitching In Isthmian League Premier Division

    https://www.hornchurchfc.com/2023/06...-announcement/
    I wonder if vincent tan actually wanted him back?

    I did wonder so but having watched the way dalman behaved in the press conference its probably more likely dalman feeding that to the media to further ridicule and undermine tan.

    Tan doesnt help himself of course but dalman clearly up to something.

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    • #17
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      Im sure Morison was never coming back.

      I still cant believe some fans think he did ok.

      Hes lumbered us with some right crap.

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      • #18
        Re: Steve Morison

        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
        Im sure Morison was never coming back.

        I still cant believe some fans think he did ok.

        Hes lumbered us with some right crap.
        He did but I don't think that's a reflection on his abilities.

        The question is, given he had to realistically bring in that many players, could he have done better? Especially with a tiny budget and a board that has a big influence over signings.

        To pin every crap player on him is unfair.

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        • #19
          Re: Steve Morison

          Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
          He did but I don't think that's a reflection on his abilities.

          The question is, given he had to realistically bring in that many players, could he have done better? Especially with a tiny budget and a board that has a big influence over signings.

          To pin every crap player on him is unfair.
          I tend to agree, Morison was far from a great City manager, but he wasn't the worst by any means. As I mentioned earlier, I'm surprised he had to drop as far as he has to get a job although I appreciate it was a former club of his and he probably wouldn't have gone to any other team in the Isthmian League.

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          • #20
            Re: Steve Morison

            Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
            He did but I don't think that's a reflection on his abilities.

            The question is, given he had to realistically bring in that many players, could he have done better? Especially with a tiny budget and a board that has a big influence over signings.

            To pin every crap player on him is unfair.
            There was no need to bring in that many players, it left us with a huge squad. It was an unsure, scattergun approach which lumbered us with shite

            We would have been better off focusing our money on a smaller group of better quality players

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            • #21
              Re: Steve Morison

              Originally posted by City123 View Post
              There was no need to bring in that many players, it left us with a huge squad. It was an unsure, scattergun approach which lumbered us with shite

              We would have been better off focusing our money on a smaller group of better quality players
              That was clearly not the plan of football

              It was many players, high intensity, utilise 5 subs.

              We needed that many players for the style we was going for.

              Just the players chosen were crap.

              I wouldn't bet against the transfer comittee selecting Ojo, not Morison which probably took a chunk of the wages.

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              • #22
                Re: Steve Morison

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                I tend to agree, Morison was far from a great City manager, but he wasn't the worst by any means. As I mentioned earlier, I'm surprised he had to drop as far as he has to get a job although I appreciate it was a former club of his and he probably wouldn't have gone to any other team in the Isthmian League.
                It's not a former club of his. He played non-league football for Bishop's Stortford and Stevenage Borough.

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                • #23
                  Re: Steve Morison

                  Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                  That was clearly not the plan of football

                  It was many players, high intensity, utilise 5 subs.

                  We needed that many players for the style we was going for.

                  Just the players chosen were crap.

                  I wouldn't bet against the transfer comittee selecting Ojo, not Morison which probably took a chunk of the wages.
                  We signed 2 keepers that if you combined them together they still wouldn’t make a good one

                  An untried right back that couldn’t get into a relegated Scottish league side, as a project??

                  Sawyers whose coasted through the season

                  Rinohmota who has disappointed and was no better than we had

                  Ojo least said the better

                  Tanner who’s agent could sell ice cream to Eskimos

                  Etete who is the only one who looks like he could develop with decent coaching

                  Robinson, ODowda and Collins who look decent Championship players

                  Kipre and Philogene (after a slow start) were decent loan signings

                  In the previous January he bought in two forwards as it was clear then, that’s where the priority was

                  He failed to do that last summer and that’s why we ended up having such a crap scoring record

                  He can talk all the modern day management speaking an effort to portray that he understands what it means, but whilst he was in the building, on the grass and going through the protocols?

                  We were sinking like the Titanic

                  He wasn’t the worst City manager I’ve seen as Alan Durban holds that title, but he was certainly one of the most arrogant underachieving managers that I’ve ever seen

                  He’s found his level and his limitations talent wise have been exposed, that’s probably why not one other league or conference club have offered him a job imho

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                  • #24
                    Re: Steve Morison

                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    It's not a former club of his. He played non-league football for Bishop's Stortford and Stevenage Borough.
                    Yes, I misunderstood what he was saying at the start of the video I posted and assumed he had played at Hornchurch before he went to Northampton - the fact he had no connection with Hornchurch before now only makes his decision to drop to that level all the more surprising.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Steve Morison

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      Yes, I misunderstood what he was saying at the start of the video I posted and assumed he had played at Hornchurch before he went to Northampton - the fact he had no connection with Hornchurch before now only makes his decision to drop to that level all the more surprising.
                      Hornchurch are as far down as a level lower than Morison ever played while he was in non-league (Bishop's Stortford were in the Conference South while he was playing for them). It's an incredible move from level 2 to level 7. Makes you wonder how many times he got knocked back for jobs further up the pyramid and why he's apparently such an unattractive option for Football League and even National League clubs.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Steve Morison

                        Good for him, learn the job and work your way up if you are good enough, Gerrard and Lampard should be working at that level or just above until they know what management is all about.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Steve Morison

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          Hornchurch are as far down as a level lower than Morison ever played while he was in non-league (Bishop's Stortford were in the Conference South while he was playing for them). It's an incredible move from level 2 to level 7. Makes you wonder how many times he got knocked back for jobs further up the pyramid and why he's apparently such an unattractive option for Football League and even National League clubs.
                          Morison won a manager of a month award at Championship level, he kept a team up that had lost eight straight matches and were 3-0 down before drawing in his first game. Also,the loan signings he made in January were generally regarded as having played a big part in avoiding the drop. I say this only to show that it wasn’t all bad under Morison even if I was never that keen on him.

                          I’d also say he would have got more time to bed in what was a new squad, which was supposed to be playing in a completely different manner, at most other clubs, so it seems odd to me that not one club all the way down to the National Leagues North or South deemed Morison worthy of managing their team. Maybe Morison has a problem with how he is perceived within the game?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Steve Morison

                            Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                            That was clearly not the plan of football

                            It was many players, high intensity, utilise 5 subs.

                            We needed that many players for the style we was going for.

                            Just the players chosen were crap.

                            I wouldn't bet against the transfer comittee selecting Ojo, not Morison which probably took a chunk of the wages.
                            The style was a nothingness. It was sort of tippy tappy with no end product, and we didn’t really press that much as most teams just sat back and let us have it. There was no creativity in the side, it was naive in the extreme and he paid the price of it. We weren’t much cop in the season before with players like Doyle and Drameh either. Having a style that relies on getting players of Whyte’s ability in the squad isn’t a very good style.

                            Morison is far from the worst manager we’ve had though so he must really interview poorly (after listening to his interviews I can definitely see this!), or the rumours we’ve heard about about him being disliked by the players must be true and everyone in football knows it. To manage a Championship club, without being a disaster, and having to drop out of professional football is incredible.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Steve Morison

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              Maybe Morison has a problem with how he is perceived within the game?
                              I would say that is an absolute certainty.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Steve Morison

                                I suppose the longer he goes without going into another role the more difficult it would be for someone who only had about a year of experience to get another decent job.
                                I guess he's made the decision to drop right down to try to prove himself rather than waiting for something that might never happen. if he's a success there he will probably get a better job soon, if he fails there then that's probably it.

                                possibly a similar story to his playing career

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