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  • That strange lot down the M4

    I’m not sure what to say about this….. https://fanbanter.co.uk/video-emerge...0bhFKBpzG0bnSo

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    Re: That strange lot down the M4

    Originally posted by bluesp View Post
    I’m not sure what to say about this….. https://fanbanter.co.uk/video-emerge...0bhFKBpzG0bnSo
    LeGal TEndEr.

    That said I think its a bad idea going cashless. But what a complete helmet that fella is.

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    • #3
      Re: That strange lot down the M4

      Originally posted by bluesp View Post
      I’m not sure what to say about this….. https://fanbanter.co.uk/video-emerge...0bhFKBpzG0bnSo
      lets go with 'not having a choice is a good thing' your betters have been doing it for years

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      • #4
        Re: That strange lot down the M4

        Quite right for being angry. It's ridiculous there is no cash option. Football is inclusive and caters for all ages and as such they should cater for everyone.

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        • #5
          Re: That strange lot down the M4

          Good on you mate....If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.

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          • #6
            Re: That strange lot down the M4

            Originally posted by bluesp View Post
            I’m not sure what to say about this….. https://fanbanter.co.uk/video-emerge...0bhFKBpzG0bnSo
            Cash is King!

            It's untraceable, especially if you want to keep it and not pay any tax to the government.

            There are also lots of businesses that won't take cards.

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            • #7
              Re: That strange lot down the M4

              Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
              Cash is King!

              It's untraceable, especially if you want to keep it and not pay any tax to the government.

              There are also lots of businesses that won't take cards.
              Sadly ,also some say 'cards only'. As a point of principle I think having the option to pay in cash should be law. For a large number of people using cash is a good way of staying within a budget. Also once the cash is in your hands it can't be cloned, your transaction is personal and private, and you only spend what you're holding..

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              • #8
                Re: That strange lot down the M4

                I wouldn't like to meet him after he's been drinking for ten hours before the Cardiff - Swans derby in Sept, but he is absolutely right.

                We should all strongly oppose a cashless society. It is an enormous power grab that basically introduces a middle man (a big financial company) to take a cut of every fkn transaction. If cash disappeared you can guarantee that cut of the fee would increase.

                Think of the cashless bars you know - they are always the expensive places.

                Banks are absolute bastards and we give them more power at our peril.

                Also, if you are a disadvantaged group it disproportionately impacts you, most striking of all being women in controlling relationships, for whom cashless places are an absolute joy for the abuser.

                Card obviously has its place but it's appalling that football clubs don't have the options to pay by cash and if they were half as inclusive as their social media accounts like to portray then they would have this option. I have purposely upped the cash I use in the last year. Easier to budget and keeps it alive.

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                • #9
                  Re: That strange lot down the M4

                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  I wouldn't like to meet him after he's been drinking for ten hours before the Cardiff - Swans derby in Sept, but he is absolutely right.

                  We should all strongly oppose a cashless society. It is an enormous power grab that basically introduces a middle man (a big financial company) to take a cut of every fkn transaction. If cash disappeared you can guarantee that cut of the fee would increase.

                  Think of the cashless bars you know - they are always the expensive places.

                  Banks are absolute bastards and we give them more power at our peril.

                  Also, if you are a disadvantaged group it disproportionately impacts you, most striking of all being women in controlling relationships, for whom cashless places are an absolute joy for the abuser.

                  Card obviously has its place but it's appalling that football clubs don't have the options to pay by cash and if they were half as inclusive as their social media accounts like to portray then they would have this option. I have purposely upped the cash I use in the last year. Easier to budget and keeps it alive.
                  I don’t understand why businesses are going down the card only route?

                  I get why it’s encouraged in pubs etc cos it stops people robbing from the til

                  But the Swansea City shop?

                  I guess they pay a fee to bank money, but Shirley less than the % on every transaction to visa/Mastercard?

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                  • #10
                    Re: That strange lot down the M4

                    He's got a point even if he isn't the most eloquent at getting it across.
                    For a business that relies alot on kids, who save up pocket money to buy something from the shop, how are they meant to learn to manage money and budget if they can only use their parents card to buy stuff.

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                    • #11
                      Re: That strange lot down the M4

                      Originally posted by EastbourneBlue View Post
                      I don’t understand why businesses are going down the card only route?

                      I get why it’s encouraged in pubs etc cos it stops people robbing from the til

                      But the Swansea City shop?

                      I guess they pay a fee to bank money, but Shirley less than the % on every transaction to visa/Mastercard?
                      I supposed a few things, stops people putting their fingers in the till. Then there is the time it takes someone to count it all up and reconcile it, then transport it to a bank etc.

                      I very rarely use cash, usually means me having to go to a cash machine first, it’s a right pain. I can see why some prefer it. I also find it so much easier to budget and plan using card.

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                      • #12
                        Re: That strange lot down the M4

                        Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
                        I supposed a few things, stops people putting their fingers in the till. Then there is the time it takes someone to count it all up and reconcile it, then transport it to a bank etc.

                        I very rarely use cash, usually means me having to go to a cash machine first, it’s a right pain. I can see why some prefer it. I also find it so much easier to budget and plan using card.
                        Yeah cash isn't cost free, but neither is card. Cash can save money when you pay suppliers etc with it too, so you aren't cashing it all.

                        It's more about who has control over the economy for me. It gives banks and govts unbelievable power in the future to exert control and cash is absolutely essential in that respect esp as I say to more marginalised groups.

                        I reckon I save £100 a month since purposely using cash more, although that is probably through just being more disciplined. It's never a hassle. Pop to the cash point near me and get £150 or so and it takes 30 seconds.

                        There has to be place for both and like I said, businesses that don't offer that really can't claim to be inclusive

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                        • #13
                          Re: That strange lot down the M4

                          Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
                          I supposed a few things, stops people putting their fingers in the till. Then there is the time it takes someone to count it all up and reconcile it, then transport it to a bank etc.

                          I very rarely use cash, usually means me having to go to a cash machine first, it’s a right pain. I can see why some prefer it. I also find it so much easier to budget and plan using card.
                          Yes and banks are closing all the branches so it would be hard even to find a bank open when you need them.

                          Convenient isn't it, close all the branches so business's and people resort to cards.

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                          • #14
                            Re: That strange lot down the M4

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            Yeah cash isn't cost free, but neither is card. Cash can save money when you pay suppliers etc with it too, so you aren't cashing it all.

                            It's more about who has control over the economy for me. It gives banks and govts unbelievable power in the future to exert control and cash is absolutely essential in that respect esp as I say to more marginalised groups.

                            I reckon I save £100 a month since purposely using cash more, although that is probably through just being more disciplined. It's never a hassle. Pop to the cash point near me and get £150 or so and it takes 30 seconds.

                            There has to be place for both and like I said, businesses that don't offer that really can't claim to be inclusive
                            The Governments would prefer to cut the banks out completely, so a government virtual currency similar to Bitcoin is the long-term plan.

                            If they can stop the black economy they will get an extra tax stream that's the main issue for governments, stop the chip shops, Chinese takeaways, builders, hairdressers, and illegal traders tax avoidance.

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                            • #15
                              Re: That strange lot down the M4

                              Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                              Yes and banks are closing all the branches so it would be hard even to find a bank open when you need them.

                              Convenient isn't it, close all the branches so business's and people resort to cards.
                              I popped to HSBC in Llanishen yesterday to print out some statements. Was only there five mins and there must have been half a dozen people come in. It closes next month.

                              It's a huge power grab and we lose.

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