Them's the Rules

[cyril evans awaydays]

Is it possible to get a bit more clarity on what is deemed unacceptable on here going forward. Mike has rightly said we are all adults and he takes a liberal approach to things but that does not stop posts and posters disappearing. I don't mean the potentially libellous ones around celebrities and presenters recently but more mundane exchanges.

I notice a few pages on the Just Stop Oil thread disappeared. No issue with that if something strayed over boundaries but I for one have no idea who or why. Similarly people like Organ Morgan and Tito Fuente have banning orders but almost all posters have no idea why.

If we had a bit more transparency on what is considered acceptable or not or a clear interjection on what was deemed wrong when things are culled there might be less need for what looks like arbitrary steps in the future.

[jeepster]

Re: Them's the Rules

Is it possible to get a bit more clarity on what is deemed unacceptable on here going forward. Mike has rightly said we are all adults and he takes a liberal approach to things but that does not stop posts and posters disappearing. I don't mean the potentially libellous ones around celebrities and presenters recently but more mundane exchanges.

I notice a few pages on the Just Stop Oil thread disappeared. No issue with that if something strayed over boundaries but I for one have no idea who or why. Similarly people like Organ Morgan and Tito Fuente have banning orders but almost all posters have no idea why.

If we had a bit more transparency on what is considered acceptable or not or a clear interjection on what was deemed wrong when things are culled there might be less need for what looks like arbitrary steps in the future.

Stop posting sense,you could be banned.:hehe:

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Them's the Rules

Is it possible to get a bit more clarity on what is deemed unacceptable on here going forward. Mike has rightly said we are all adults and he takes a liberal approach to things but that does not stop posts and posters disappearing. I don't mean the potentially libellous ones around celebrities and presenters recently but more mundane exchanges.

I notice a few pages on the Just Stop Oil thread disappeared. No issue with that if something strayed over boundaries but I for one have no idea who or why. Similarly people like Organ Morgan and Tito Fuente have banning orders but almost all posters have no idea why.

If we had a bit more transparency on what is considered acceptable or not or a clear interjection on what was deemed wrong when things are culled there might be less need for what looks like arbitrary steps in the future.

I'm more than happy with Mike and the Mod's judgement. Once you create what you think are clear dividing lines, those lines get smudged and some end up trying to push those boundaries. Then we get arguments about that. The decision of Mike and the Mods should be final. If some don't like it, then that's their issue.

[Baloo]

Re: Them's the Rules

Is it possible to get a bit more clarity on what is deemed unacceptable on here going forward. Mike has rightly said we are all adults and he takes a liberal approach to things but that does not stop posts and posters disappearing. I don't mean the potentially libellous ones around celebrities and presenters recently but more mundane exchanges.

I notice a few pages on the Just Stop Oil thread disappeared. No issue with that if something strayed over boundaries but I for one have no idea who or why. Similarly people like Organ Morgan and Tito Fuente have banning orders but almost all posters have no idea why.

If we had a bit more transparency on what is considered acceptable or not or a clear interjection on what was deemed wrong when things are culled there might be less need for what looks like arbitrary steps in the future.

I read another football board from time to time. And they have a section listing banned posters, how long they’re banned for and why.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Them's the Rules

I'm more than happy with Mike and the Mod's judgement. Once you create what you think are clear dividing lines, those lines get smudged and some end up trying to push those boundaries. Then we get arguments about that. The decision of Mike and the Mods should be final. If some don't like it, then that's their issue.

I'd agree, they let most things go, and it's not easy to get posts removed or banned.

Politics is the biggest problem, stick it on the alternative, and most of us won't see it or get involved.

The golden rule in life should be don't discuss politics or religion.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Re: Them's the Rules

[This post has been removed by the moderator at 21:59 for violation of CCMB rules]

[Tuerto]

Re: Them's the Rules

There's certainly some really dodgy stuff on here from time to time, and the messageboard is dominated by a few posters who, lets be honest about it, repeat the same old shit day after day. It may be in the interests of the more prolific posters (and i include myself in this) by regulating themselves from time to time, by pissing off for a while because they repeat themselves and it gets really boring and a bit sad. (I include myself in this as well) saddest thing is that we don't have the traffic these days to dilute the ones who spam the **** out of this board. One day, it'll LOM just talking to himself, or is that the case now anyway?

[JamesWales]

Re: Them's the Rules

Personally I think things need to be tightened up in terms of abuse, some of which is in pretty violent language. Not because people shouldn't be allowed to express themselves but because it makes it a grim place.

[Dorcus]

Re: Them's the Rules

I'd agree, they let most things go, and it's not easy to get posts removed or banned.

Politics is the biggest problem, stick it on the alternative, and most of us won't see it or get involved.

The golden rule in life should be don't discuss politics or religion.

If you can't discuss politics or religion as a rational human being then what hope is there for humankind?

[Michael Morris]

Re: Them's the Rules

Is it possible to get a bit more clarity on what is deemed unacceptable on here going forward. Mike has rightly said we are all adults and he takes a liberal approach to things but that does not stop posts and posters disappearing. I don't mean the potentially libellous ones around celebrities and presenters recently but more mundane exchanges.

I notice a few pages on the Just Stop Oil thread disappeared. No issue with that if something strayed over boundaries but I for one have no idea who or why. Similarly people like Organ Morgan and Tito Fuente have banning orders but almost all posters have no idea why.

If we had a bit more transparency on what is considered acceptable or not or a clear interjection on what was deemed wrong when things are culled there might be less need for what looks like arbitrary steps in the future.

Nothing deleted from that thread. Not a single post let alone 'pages'

The last post deleted was a post on the Djokavic thread where 'Alan Lung' - don't think that's his real name, I maybe wrong - called someone a Twat. So I deleted it.

Last threads deleted was Wales Bales taking the piss out of Deli Ali and SunnySideUp posting libellous/slanderous revelations of Huw Edwards before it was officially announced. Both over a week ago

Last thread locked was the Rylan / Linekar / Vine titled thread that just got libellous (Sunny again) weird and inappropriate.

People tend to get banned if they post offensive stuff, usually more than once as they normally get a chance, or if they appear to be or are quite obviously trolls who post under multiple names.

Some posters have asked to be removed because it's like a drug and they can't help stirring things up because it gets a reaction.

I think there are a number of posters on here now that are multi's, or trolls who blend their posts between valid contributions and posts to provoke other users. Some think they are funny, some are just annoying. Like that bloke on the pub who won't shut up.

I can't police every single person and know their intentions. The ones that get banned tend to display extremes and push the envelope too far. Some get banned because they ask to be banned because they can't stop.

I'm on another forum where people get a mute from posting if they don't ask for permission to contact Admin. Or if they ask a question someone else has already asked.

I like people to play along and respect the opportunity they have on here.

Act like an arse and you might get wiped.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Them's the Rules

Is Organ Morgan banned then?

[Whisperer]

Re: Them's the Rules

Let’s be honest you got to be a bit of a twat to be a multi.

[blue matt]

Re: Them's the Rules

I'm more than happy with Mike and the Mod's judgement. Once you create what you think are clear dividing lines, those lines get smudged and some end up trying to push those boundaries. Then we get arguments about that. The decision of Mike and the Mods should be final. If some don't like it, then that's their issue.

:thumbup: this is a good point, draw a line, people want to push it

Nothing deleted from that thread. Not a single post let alone 'pages'

The last post deleted was a post on the Djokavic thread where 'Alan Lung' - don't think that's his real name, I maybe wrong - called someone a Twat. So I deleted it.

Last threads deleted was Wales Bales taking the piss out of Deli Ali and SunnySideUp posting libellous/slanderous revelations of Huw Edwards before it was officially announced. Both over a week ago

I got in from a night out late last night, spent a while looking at deleted posts on the just stop oil thread ( you are right, none ), compiled a list like you have done, then I thought " why bother, it'll only stir it up and I will be called a liar, people just want the attention "

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

Re: Them's the Rules

If posters took a little more responsibility themselves to be accepting of others' opinions, however much they might disagree with them, the mods would have an easier job.

Most of us have belonged to this site for a long time. We know how it works and which posters press our buttons. Just put those you find objectionable on ignore and try to be be more tolerant. Job done.

[Majorblue]

Re: Them's the Rules

I have never quite understood why people have multiple identities on here.
Maybe one of them could explain what their thinking behind it is.
Possibly link our real names to our poster identity in the profile section if it is causing issues.