We are going to finish 23rd

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: We are going to finish 23rd

He didn't really. We still hardly scored with him in the side. We need to address the fundamental issues of why we don't score.

He scored a lot more per game than all the rest, those goals were vital.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: We are going to finish 23rd

Yes, I do think they'd have won the league because he never has to do anything . If Man City had Emerson in net with Rinomhota in for Rodri and Simpson in for Ruben Dias, they'd struggle more.

Muric at Burnley isn't very good. Sheff Utd have Foderingham in net, he's fine at best. Luton went up with Ethan Horvath who was terrible for Forest. I also don't think there are many good keepers around, Ben Wilson was in the EFL team of the season and he looked a million miles from that in 16-17!

Having a good keeper is important but having centre mids and centre backs are so much more important. We also aren't going to be able to get a Marshall etc for nothing.

How are their stats worse than our keepers?

https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/keepers/Championship-Stats

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: We are going to finish 23rd

He made loads of saves and the sign of a good keeper is that they make it look like they don't have anything to do because they come out and sweep the ball when they need to and stay on their line when they need to.

You are right on that point a good keeper makes it look easy, just a like a good Striker they pass the ball into the net thirty times a season.

Ederson made 74 saves last season. That's it. He does nothing because their team is so good. Having a keeper is obviously important but if you have a good core you can get away with it. You will get murdered if you have a poor core. Wales had Rush, Hughes and Southall. How did that go?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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He scored a lot more per game than all the rest, those goals were vital.

His goals were vital. It also needs to be said that we were more attacking as a team under Lamouchi than we were before he took over, it wasn't quite the Sory Kaba show. We scored 1 goal more in our first 28 games last season than we did under the last 18 when Lamouchi was in charge. The downside was that we had the joint 7th best defensive record after 28 games but the 5th worst under Lamouchi.

The increase in attacking play led to more goals being conceded.

[Forgotmyoldaccount]

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I haven't watched much of us recently, went from an ardent season ticket holder to casual fan who can barely name our starting 11. Based on our downward trajectory, you would think that's a good prediction. On paper the league looks harder than ever.

I went through every team in the league on Wikipedia to see our quality vs the field, I think on paper, we're not that bad. Probably a top 12-14 team. I was very impressed with our first half showing vs Porto (who would walk this league with 110 points+) and we looked very good, fell appart in the second half, but I like what the coach is doing.

[Forgotmyoldaccount]

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On the goalkeeper debate, Courtois literally won Real Madrid the Champions league almost singlehandedly, especially in the final vs Liverpool. If they Had Allsop vs Pool' they would have lost 5-1.

[Hilts]

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If wed had Allsopp unstead of Marshall in our promotion season there is no way wed have been promoted automatically. We may not have even made the play offs.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: We are going to finish 23rd

If wed had Allsopp unstead of Marshall in our promotion season there is no way wed have been promoted automatically. We may not have even made the play offs.

Cardiff were 19 points clear of 6th, 10 points clear of 3rd, were top of the league for about 30 weeks and completely coasted in the last 7/8 games as they had bugger all to play for as it was already sewn up. That is a ridiculous comment. They'd have walked it with Allsop in goal.

By the way, I don't rate Allsop at all but he isn't that bad. Amazingly his confidence nose dived when he was picking the ball out of the back of the net 3 times a week because we can't mark, don't score and lost every week.

[Divine Wright]

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[Carl Dale's Mole]

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You've only gone and jinxed it it'll be 24th now!

[dml1954]

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If wed had Allsopp unstead of Marshall in our promotion season there is no way wed have been promoted automatically. We may not have even made the play offs.

You appear to know as little about goal keepers as you do about centre halves. For a bloke who sets himself up as a bit of a footie expert on here, you don't half make yourself look silly with some of your ‘analysis’.

[Hilts]

Re: We are going to finish 23rd

You appear to know as little about goal keepers as you do about centre halves. For a bloke who sets himself up as a bit of a footie expert on here, you don't half make yourself look silly with some of your ‘analysis’.

Sets myself up as a footie expert.

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From the poster who said we were a better side with Will Vaulks in it.

[Tuerto]

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Sets myself up as a footie expert.

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From the poster who said we were a better side with Will Vaulks in it.

And how Madine was value for money.

[splott parker]

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Sets myself up as a footie expert.

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From the poster who said we were a better side with Will Vaulks in it.

C’mon now, the man is facing a terrible dilemma, the side that just avoided relegation last season were world class in his eyes. How he’d describe this side and the players now they’re 7th would make him look daft(er)