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  • #16
    Re: Ojo

    Originally posted by life on mars View Post
    Ojo is full of talent he needs a real good mentor with exceptional man management, criticism will get him no where ..
    You’ve spelt talent wrong, it’s spelt “shite” in Ojo’s case

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    • #17
      Re: Ojo

      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      Just out of interest, how many attackers do you think we have who could be said to have a “good football brain”? Robinson sees things quickly, but I’m struggling to think of any one else who does. Ojo just seems to be a natural footballer who does not respond positively if he’s facing an opponent that can cope with his pace and power. It looked to me as if he was running on empty mentally as last season drew to a close and his confidence was completely shot.

      Managers see Ojo’s physical strengths on show in training and, understandably, assume he can translate what they see there into game situations, but he doesn’t. Looking back, he did pretty well in the first half of his first season with us, but it was amazing to see him getting so much game time last season when he was consistently poor in a poor attack.

      Ojo kept Robinson out of the starting line up yesterday and, given that he did well last week for a while, you could maybe understand it, but when is the last time Ojo had a major influence in a Championship match? I can’t think of one game from last season when he did.
      Yeah, Robinson seems to have some intelligence about him, the rest don't seem to have any, in fact, right across the squad. There was a moment during the first half when Ramsey played a nice slide rule through to ojo. It looked like Ramsey hadn't put 'enough' on the pass and ojo sort of got ahead of the ball and had to adjust himself, which kind of killed the move, it allowed the fullback to set himself. Most of us would probably blame Ramsey, but it wasn't his fault, he expected ojo to check his run due to the angle. Ojo didn't and it sort of slowed everything down, you could see ramsey attempting to explain to ojo what he expected him to do, like what would have happened at Arsenal and Juve.

      I suppose that's the difference, poor players can make a good pass look bad, good players can make a poor pass look good. We are seriously lacking in intelligence, and i think that Ramsey may end up a bit frustrated on times.

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      • #18
        Re: Ojo

        Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
        Yeah, Robinson seems to have some intelligence about him, the rest don't seem to have any, in fact, right across the squad. There was a moment during the first half when Ramsey played a nice slide rule through to ojo. It looked like Ramsey hadn't put 'enough' on the pass and ojo sort of got ahead of the ball and had to adjust himself, which kind of killed the move, it allowed the fullback to set himself. Most of us would probably blame Ramsey, but it wasn't his fault, he expected ojo to check his run due to the angle. Ojo didn't and it sort of slowed everything down, you could see ramsey attempting to explain to ojo what he expected him to do, like what would have happened at Arsenal and Juve.

        I suppose that's the difference, poor players can make a good pass look bad, good players can make a poor pass look good. We are seriously lacking in intelligence, and i think that Ramsey may end up a bit frustrated on times.
        You’ve just described the very incident that prompted me to ask my question - it was typical 22/23 Cardiff City attacking, an object lesson in how to turn what at least should have been a shot on goal into just nothing. Maybe Ramsey had a part to play in why the whole thing fizzled out, but he’s invariably played the right pass in a situation like that throughout his career, so I know who I thought was to blame - the player who had such a poor season last time around.

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        • #19
          Re: Ojo

          I agree with all that's been said about Ojo and it is baffling why those making the decisions seem to stick with him.

          So it's as sure as eggs, as they say, that he will start the game, do next to nothing as usual and score the only goal of the game off his arse!

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          • #20
            Re: Ojo

            Originally posted by Cowbridge Blue View Post
            I agree with all that's been said about Ojo and it is baffling why those making the decisions seem to stick with him.

            So it's as sure as eggs, as they say, that he will start the game, do next to nothing as usual and score the only goal of the game off his arse!
            If Ono’s arse scores the winning goal at Weeds I’ll be more than happy

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            • #21
              Re: Ojo

              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
              Yeah, Robinson seems to have some intelligence about him, the rest don't seem to have any, in fact, right across the squad. There was a moment during the first half when Ramsey played a nice slide rule through to ojo. It looked like Ramsey hadn't put 'enough' on the pass and ojo sort of got ahead of the ball and had to adjust himself, which kind of killed the move, it allowed the fullback to set himself. Most of us would probably blame Ramsey, but it wasn't his fault, he expected ojo to check his run due to the angle. Ojo didn't and it sort of slowed everything down, you could see ramsey attempting to explain to ojo what he expected him to do, like what would have happened at Arsenal and Juve.

              I suppose that's the difference, poor players can make a good pass look bad, good players can make a poor pass look good. We are seriously lacking in intelligence, and i think that Ramsey may end up a bit frustrated on times.
              He's looked very frustrated already, I don't blame him.

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              • #22
                Re: Ojo

                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                Yeah, Robinson seems to have some intelligence about him, the rest don't seem to have any, in fact, right across the squad. There was a moment during the first half when Ramsey played a nice slide rule through to ojo. It looked like Ramsey hadn't put 'enough' on the pass and ojo sort of got ahead of the ball and had to adjust himself, which kind of killed the move, it allowed the fullback to set himself. Most of us would probably blame Ramsey, but it wasn't his fault, he expected ojo to check his run due to the angle. Ojo didn't and it sort of slowed everything down, you could see ramsey attempting to explain to ojo what he expected him to do, like what would have happened at Arsenal and Juve.

                I suppose that's the difference, poor players can make a good pass look bad, good players can make a poor pass look good. We are seriously lacking in intelligence, and i think that Ramsey may end up a bit frustrated on times.
                I think Grant looks sharp, he is more likely to be understanding Ramsey's ability and making the right runs, as would Moore.

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                • #23
                  Re: Ojo

                  Originally posted by Des Parrot View Post
                  If Ono’s arse scores the winning goal at Weeds I’ll be more than happy
                  John Lennon will be pleased too, looking on from above.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Ojo

                    Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                    I think Grant looks sharp, he is more likely to be understanding Ramsey's ability and making the right runs, as would Moore.
                    Grant looks like he can play a bit cut in his right foot nicely a dipped a shot with pace on it, good technique in my opinion. The problem we seem to have with the Grants of this world is getting them to play consistently. It's all well and good having a player who scores a 9 1 game in 8, we need solid 7 performances consistently with the odd couple of minutes of real quality that can be the difference between winning and losing. We don't seem to be able to drag that out of players with obvious ability.

                    One thing we haven't had for a while, certainly since Tomlin under Harris and certain players under Warnock, is big performers, players who can perform inspite of the others, and I think that we're going to need that with a squad that is pretty limited in terms of ability, if we are to progress. We don't seem to be able to make promising players better, we don't get them in a position where if they aren't doing what they're best at, then they're contributing in other ways that allow other players to make an impact. If we're off the boil, then we're off the boil, and rarely do we see players change things or use a bit of intelligence and think that maybe they should concentrate on doing something different. It's been a problem with managers as well. It's so frustrating to see certain players start poorly, yet continue to do the same things without thinking about it. That's something that finished josh Murphy in my opinion (as well as a few other things) He didn't have a brain, ability, but no brain. It seems a prerequisite of wide players at this level.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Ojo

                      Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                      Grant looks like he can play a bit cut in his right foot nicely a dipped a shot with pace on it, good technique in my opinion. The problem we seem to have with the Grants of this world is getting them to play consistently. It's all well and good having a player who scores a 9 1 game in 8, we need solid 7 performances consistently with the odd couple of minutes of real quality that can be the difference between winning and losing. We don't seem to be able to drag that out of players with obvious ability.

                      One thing we haven't had for a while, certainly since Tomlin under Harris and certain players under Warnock, is big performers, players who can perform inspite of the others, and I think that we're going to need that with a squad that is pretty limited in terms of ability, if we are to progress. We don't seem to be able to make promising players better, we don't get them in a position where if they aren't doing what they're best at, then they're contributing in other ways that allow other players to make an impact. If we're off the boil, then we're off the boil, and rarely do we see players change things or use a bit of intelligence and think that maybe they should concentrate on doing something different. It's been a problem with managers as well. It's so frustrating to see certain players start poorly, yet continue to do the same things without thinking about it. That's something that finished josh Murphy in my opinion (as well as a few other things) He didn't have a brain, ability, but no brain. It seems a prerequisite of wide players at this level.
                      Chopra springs to mind. Off the field it would seem his private life was a bit of a mess. Too many wrong choices in his life.
                      However, on the pitch he had a footballing brain that meant he DID make the right choices.
                      He could "change things and use intelligence". Think instinctively, and not be predictable in his play. He was a joy to watch and had that little bit of narkiness about him, which meant he was always fired and focused.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Ojo

                        Originally posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
                        Chopra springs to mind. Off the field it would seem his private life was a bit of a mess. Too many wrong choices in his life.
                        However, on the pitch he had a footballing brain that meant he DID make the right choices.
                        He could "change things and use intelligence". Think instinctively, and not be predictable in his play. He was a joy to watch and had that little bit of narkiness about him, which meant he was always fired and focused.
                        Yup, Chopra was a lower level premier league footballer. He pissed about in the championship for so long because premier league clubs aren't going to put up with his antics like we did.

                        His short movement was brilliant, and he was strong, he would lean into defenders when he was on the ball. Basty little ****er as well, like you say. Wanted to win. Maybe a bit too much sadly!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Ojo

                          Originally posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
                          Chopra springs to mind. Off the field it would seem his private life was a bit of a mess. Too many wrong choices in his life.
                          However, on the pitch he had a footballing brain that meant he DID make the right choices.
                          He could "change things and use intelligence". Think instinctively, and not be predictable in his play. He was a joy to watch and had that little bit of narkiness about him, which meant he was always fired and focused.
                          Bellamy was similar but better and with a brilliant attitude to games and training in general.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Ojo

                            WOL quoting Ng as saying of his new role:
                            "I'm enjoying it. [Bulut] wants us to come inside a lot more and it gives the winger a lot more space. I'm enjoying it and hopefully it works.
                            I can get involved in the play a bit more and help Sheyi going forward on my wing. It creates a lot more space for him to do his thing one-v-one and create a lot more opportunities for us."

                            Am I reading too much into that, or does it suggest Ojo is nailed on to start?

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                            • #29
                              Re: Ojo

                              Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
                              WOL quoting Ng as saying of his new role:
                              "I'm enjoying it. [Bulut] wants us to come inside a lot more and it gives the winger a lot more space. I'm enjoying it and hopefully it works.
                              I can get involved in the play a bit more and help Sheyi going forward on my wing. It creates a lot more space for him to do his thing one-v-one and create a lot more opportunities for us."

                              Am I reading too much into that, or does it suggest Ojo is nailed on to start?
                              IFHN !!!! :facepalm:

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                              • #30
                                Re: Ojo

                                Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
                                IFHN !!!! :facepalm:
                                New signing?......How’s it pronounced?

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