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**Swiss Peter** · 20-09-23, 07:41

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by Harry Lime View Post

Would you say that there is just as much of a drinking culture over there then Peter?

I always assumed it would be more restrained

I would say it is not more restrained, Harry. It's certainly more overt over there - you see loads of people drinking in the streets, public transport etc. before matches - more so than here I would say, where the drinking culture is more pub based?. I think that they are clamping down inside the grounds now too. There was no alcohol being sold at the Hamburg derby games last year, for instance.

**Harry Lime** · 21-09-23, 08:36

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by Swiss Peter View Post

I would say it is not more restrained, Harry. It's certainly more overt over there - you see loads of people drinking in the streets, public transport etc. before matches - more so than here I would say, where the drinking culture is more pub based?. I think that they are clamping down inside the grounds now too. There was no alcohol being sold at the Hamburg derby games last year, for instance.

Interesting that.

Yes definitely more pub based here, I'm not sure what the legislation is with regards to drinking in the street these days? I know they started clamping down on it a few years ago

**The Lone Gunman** · 21-09-23, 08:55

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by Harry Lime View Post

Would you say that there is just as much of a drinking culture over there then Peter?

I always assumed it would be more restrained

In my experience, which is admittedly limited to just three Bundesliga matches and one game in the lower divisions, the attitude to drinking alcohol before and during matches in Germany was much more relaxed. There were loads of outlets serving beer in and around the Olympiastadion on my three visits to watch Hertha Berlin (the latest of which was in 2019), and fans were able to drink pretty much everywhere, including inside the stadium bowl while watching the games. If memory serves, you paid a 2 euro deposit on a big plastic beer jug with Hertha's logo on the side and it could be refilled as many times as you liked during the match. You handed the jug back on your way out and got your deposit back then.

I went to see Tennis Borussia Berlin play in the fifth division in late-November 2018, and my partner at the time was delighted that she was able to sit in the grandstand and watch the game while drinking mulled wine.

**Swiss Peter** · 22-09-23, 09:57

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[QUOTE=The Lone Gunman;5455623

I went to see Tennis Borussia Berlin play [/QUOTE]

I had to look them up. I imagined they'd be another team from the old east. I didn't realise that they are another Charlottenburg team, not far from the Olympiastadion. Crowds of a few hundred and quite an interesting history!

**The Lone Gunman** · 22-09-23, 10:05

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Originally posted by Swiss Peter View Post

I had to look them up. I imagined they'd be another team from the old east. I didn't realise that they are another Charlottenburg team, not far from the Olympiastadion. Crowds of a few hundred and quite an interesting history!

One season in the Bundesliga I believe, something like 1971 or 1972?

They were unbeaten in the league when I saw them play local rivals CFC Hertha 06 on a very cold late-November evening. They got hammered 4-0. The crowd was about 600 I think. One thing that tickled me was they had a signing section on the terrace on the opposite side of the the ground to where we were sat, and many of the songs they were signing were in English. Halfway through the second half at 0-3 down they were signing "show me the way to go home...."

**Harry Lime** · 22-09-23, 10:12

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Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post

One season in the Bundesliga I believe, something like 1971 or 1972?

They were unbeaten in the league when I saw them play local rivals CFC Hertha 06 on a very cold late-November evening. They got hammered 4-0. The crowd was about 600 I think. One thing that tickled me was they had a signing section on the terrace on the opposite side of the the ground to where we were sat, and many of the songs they were signing were in English. Halfway through the second half at 0-3 down they were signing "show me the way to go home...."

Who says Germans don't have a sense of humour.

My 56 year old brain is struggling to recall a particular team that has a massive Christmas festival at their stadium every year. I seem to recall that it starts after a match? Mulled wine on the terraces is very civilised I must say

**The Lone Gunman** · 22-09-23, 10:17

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Originally posted by Harry Lime View Post

My 56 year old brain is struggling to recall a particular team that has a massive Christmas festival at their stadium every year. I seem to recall that it starts after a match? Mulled wine on the terraces is very civilised I must say

Just Googled it and it seems Union Berlin have some sort of an annual Christmas carol singing festival.

**The Lone Gunman** · 22-09-23, 10:18

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The story behind Union's Traditional Christmas Carols

https://www.fc-union-berlin.de/en/union-live/latest-news/club/The-story-behind-Union-s-Traditional-Christmas-Carols-86D/

Saturday December 20, 2003. 21:25. This was the start of a 1. FC Union Berlin tradition, which stands to this day.

**Harry Lime** · 22-09-23, 11:50

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post

https://www.fc-union-berlin.de/en/un...as-Carols-86D/

That's it 👍

**Swiss Peter** · 22-09-23, 15:26

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by Harry Lime View Post

Who says Germans don't have a sense of humour.

We were sitting in a pub after the St Pauli game on Sunday trying to figure out how the hell we were going to get home when a group of St Pauli fans joined us at the table. Great result, I said to them. "Not really" came back the reply. "I'd got used to sitting there comfortably during the matches this season, and today I had to stand up five time". German humour, I guess.

**Harry Lime** · 22-09-23, 17:42

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by Swiss Peter View Post

We were sitting in a pub after the St Pauli game on Sunday trying to figure out how the hell we were going to get home when a group of St Pauli fans joined us at the table. Great result, I said to them. "Not really" came back the reply. "I'd got used to sitting there comfortably during the matches this season, and today I had to stand up five time". German humour, I guess.

Fair play, not bad for an off the cuff joke. I like fans who don't take things too seriously.

**splott parker** · 22-09-23, 18:40

Re: Bundesliga 2

Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post

One season in the Bundesliga I believe, something like 1971 or 1972?

They were unbeaten in the league when I saw them play local rivals CFC Hertha 06 on a very cold late-November evening. They got hammered 4-0. The crowd was about 600 I think. One thing that tickled me was they had a signing section on the terrace on the opposite side of the the ground to where we were sat, and many of the songs they were signing were in English. Halfway through the second half at 0-3 down they were signing "show me the way to go home...."

How many autographs did you get in the signing section David?

**Harry Lime** · 23-09-23, 15:14

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https://www.youtube.com/live/yxaPmHGxNkM?si=8d1nGrKSj0YwEQbT

St Pauli Schalke live on YouTube tonight. I didn't know they put these games on before now

**JamesWales** · 23-09-23, 17:39

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Originally posted by Harry Lime View Post

https://www.youtube.com/live/yxaPmHG...1nGrKSj0YwEQbT

St Pauli Schalke live on YouTube tonight. I didn't know they put these games on before now

Nor me. Is there one on every weekend?

**Harry Lime** · 24-09-23, 07:34

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Originally posted by JamesWales View Post

Nor me. Is there one on every weekend?

Looks like it, a few games on live next weekend

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