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    Meeting with Mehmet Dalman 12 August 2023

    Dear Member,*

    As I promised, here is a note of the meeting that took place prior to the QPR game between Mehmet Dalman and representatives of Fan groups*

    Attending from the club were Mehmet Dalman (Chair), Ken Choo (Chief Executive), Phillip Jenkins (Finance Director), Wayne Nash (Director of Operations), Amy James (Head of Fan Experience), Mark Denham ( Head of Communications), Paul Corkrey (Supporters Liaison Officer).**

    Members of the Supporters Trust, Supporters Club, Disabled Supporters Group and Travel Group were also present.*

    Mehmet Dalman welcomed everyone to the meeting and stated his intention to hold**more informal meetings to improve links**with fans over and above the formal meetings that already take place.*

    A broad range of issues were discussed**in a very informal and positive atmosphere. It was agreed by all that the season was commencing in a very positive light and everyone was looking forward to the new league campaign.*

    The issue of new signings was raised. MD was hoping that 2 further signings, one permanent one loan, would be made before the window closes.**There would also be further players being loaned out. He also paid tribute to the vision and efforts of Steve Borley in the recruitment of Aaron Ramsey.*

    MD stated that the litigation with Nantes and the Club's Insurers is continuing.*

    The question was raised concerning the projected financial position for the current season. Phillip Jenkins stated that the expectation was that the club would trade within the permitted limits of Profit and Sustainability. He reminded the meeting that the payment in full of the Emiliano Sala transfer was covered by the provision made in the balance sheet in the 2018/19 accounts. He also mentioned that the financial position of the club would be under close scrutiny by the EFL to ensure our compliance.*

    Phillip Jenkins stated that current season ticket sales were 14,200, a position that the club was very pleased with given the poor season we had last year.*

    Wayne Nash outlined the club's approach to a Fan Advisory Board which is one of the recommendations of the Fans Led Review of Football. He referred to consultations he had had with Supporters Groups and stated that he envisaged a Fan Advisory Board meeting 4 times per year. There will need to be further discussions to move this issue forward. Wayne also stated that there would be**a twice yearly Fans Parliament open to a wider group of fans as well as**the usual Supporter Liaison meetings.*

    Ken Choo emphasised the club's continuing commitment to producing a programme. He mentioned that they would be looking to utilise more recycled paper in its production which is in line with the Club's pursuance of the EFL Green Clubs Scheme.*

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    Keith Morgan*

    Chair*

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    Cardiff City FC Supporters Trust

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    Re: Trust meeting with Dalman

    Originally posted by Former Labour leader View Post
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    Meeting with Mehmet Dalman 12 August 2023

    Dear Member,*

    As I promised, here is a note of the meeting that took place prior to the QPR game between Mehmet Dalman and representatives of Fan groups*

    Attending from the club were Mehmet Dalman (Chair), Ken Choo (Chief Executive), Phillip Jenkins (Finance Director), Wayne Nash (Director of Operations), Amy James (Head of Fan Experience), Mark Denham ( Head of Communications), Paul Corkrey (Supporters Liaison Officer).**

    Members of the Supporters Trust, Supporters Club, Disabled Supporters Group and Travel Group were also present.*

    Mehmet Dalman welcomed everyone to the meeting and stated his intention to hold**more informal meetings to improve links**with fans over and above the formal meetings that already take place.*

    A broad range of issues were discussed**in a very informal and positive atmosphere. It was agreed by all that the season was commencing in a very positive light and everyone was looking forward to the new league campaign.*

    The issue of new signings was raised. MD was hoping that 2 further signings, one permanent one loan, would be made before the window closes.**There would also be further players being loaned out. He also paid tribute to the vision and efforts of Steve Borley in the recruitment of Aaron Ramsey.*

    MD stated that the litigation with Nantes and the Club's Insurers is continuing.*

    The question was raised concerning the projected financial position for the current season. Phillip Jenkins stated that the expectation was that the club would trade within the permitted limits of Profit and Sustainability. He reminded the meeting that the payment in full of the Emiliano Sala transfer was covered by the provision made in the balance sheet in the 2018/19 accounts. He also mentioned that the financial position of the club would be under close scrutiny by the EFL to ensure our compliance.*

    Phillip Jenkins stated that current season ticket sales were 14,200, a position that the club was very pleased with given the poor season we had last year.*

    Wayne Nash outlined the club's approach to a Fan Advisory Board which is one of the recommendations of the Fans Led Review of Football. He referred to consultations he had had with Supporters Groups and stated that he envisaged a Fan Advisory Board meeting 4 times per year. There will need to be further discussions to move this issue forward. Wayne also stated that there would be**a twice yearly Fans Parliament open to a wider group of fans as well as**the usual Supporter Liaison meetings.*

    Ken Choo emphasised the club's continuing commitment to producing a programme. He mentioned that they would be looking to utilise more recycled paper in its production which is in line with the Club's pursuance of the EFL Green Clubs Scheme.*

    *

    Keith Morgan*

    Chair*

    *

    Cardiff City FC Supporters Trust
    Re the finances 2 of the teams that went down last season had points deductions. Not getting any points deducted is absolutely crucial if we are to escape relegation this season. I am sure others will face points deductions as seems to be a regular occurence now.

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      Re: Trust meeting with Dalman

      Manager says three new players this week

      Does he know something Dalman doesn’t or vice versa

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      • #4
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        "Vincent Tan has just paid £18million out of his own pocket to settle the Emiliano Sala transfer "


        ?? I thought this was accounted for in City's own finances.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
          "Vincent Tan has just paid £18million out of his own pocket to settle the Emiliano Sala transfer "


          ?? I thought this was accounted for in City's own finances.
          They made an accrual for the £18m in the financial statements.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
            "Vincent Tan has just paid £18million out of his own pocket to settle the Emiliano Sala transfer "


            ?? I thought this was accounted for in City's own finances.
            Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
            They made an accrual for the £18m in the financial statements.
            But there was no bag of money labelled 'For Nantes' sitting in the Cardiff City FC safe.

            Making provision in the accounts 4 years ago ensured that there would be no breach of FFP rules. Tan still had to find the money when it was time (or past time!) to pay up.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
              But there was no bag of money labelled 'For Nantes' sitting in the Cardiff City FC safe.

              Making provision in the accounts 4 years ago ensured that there would be no breach of FFP rules. Tan still had to find the money when it was time (or past time!) to pay up.
              Indeed. It might have been wise to pay the fee when it was actually due as opposed to using the money to pay an endless stream of lawyers and giving Warnock large chunks of it to spunk away on expensive rubbish, but what’s done is done.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                Indeed. It might have been wise to pay the fee when it was actually due as opposed to using the money to pay an endless stream of lawyers and giving Warnock large chunks of it to spunk away on expensive rubbish, but what’s done is done.
                The next series of the Cardiff City Docusoap will be about lawyers seeking their payment, be another three or so years of intrigue and fiasco:sherlock:

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                  The next series of the Cardiff City Docusoap will be about lawyers seeking their payment, be another three or so years of intrigue and fiasco:sherlock:
                  Maybe they were no win no fee?

                  For the club I hope so as we won't have to pay a penny then. We've lost every one haven't we?

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
                    Maybe they were no win no fee?

                    For the club I hope so as we won't have to pay a penny then. We've lost every one haven't we?
                    :hehe:Cardiff City Lawyers better start wishing lawyers of other Championship clubs get a few points deductions.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
                      Maybe they were no win no fee?

                      For the club I hope so as we won't have to pay a penny then. We've lost every one haven't we?
                      We won the cases against Hammam and Isaacs.

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                      • #12
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                        Dalman seems a fairly smooth operator

                        He's a bit scatterbox but I can think of far worse owners than him in football

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          They made an accrual for the £18m in the financial statements.
                          Wasn’t it £15 million? Thought we’d paid £6 million already…..

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                            Dalman seems a fairly smooth operator

                            He's a bit scatterbox but I can think of far worse owners than him in football
                            Indeed, Vincent Tan springs to mind.

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                              Re: Trust meeting with Dalman

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              Dalman seems a fairly smooth operator

                              He's a bit scatterbox but I can think of far worse owners than him in football
                              At least Dalman is prepared to reach out to the fanbase. He calls meetings with fans reps and is instituting the Fans Parliament for the wider fanbase. Tan, to my knowledge, has visited the UK twice recently-in October 2022 when he met Rob Phillips and Abbo only in Cardiff and more recently he was part of the Malaysian delegation to the Queens funeral, he didn’t meet fans then either.

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