The Harry Maguire "joke"

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Am I the only one who thinks the "joke" is that Southgate keeps picking him?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/sep/12/southgate-backs-england-stalwart-maguire-after-own-goal-against-scotland

Was genuinely shocked at how bad he was playing against us and getting terrorised by Paterson.

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Am I the only one who thinks the "joke" is that Southgate keeps picking him?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/sep/12/southgate-backs-england-stalwart-maguire-after-own-goal-against-scotland

Was genuinely shocked at how bad he was playing against us and getting terrorised by Paterson.

He's being bullied, yet he's a decent player, it's a strange one he's not even a nasty bloke, I suppose it's just the modern World.

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He’s a good player that doesn’t suit how the games adapted recently.

If you have 10 men behind the ball and just constant crosses, he’ll fire away or block every one

Put him in a position where he has to play higher, think more he can’t cope.

But agree with first point, he shouldn’t be playing for England or Man Utd

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He's just an easy target at this stage, fans and media have in mind he's shit and are waiting to pounce.

He himself is probably then trying too hard.

Needs a move abroad.

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https://youtu.be/90c-tIROIuA?si=4F4h8euX97SFxfgo

Fair play

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He’s a good player that doesn’t suit how the games adapted recently.

If you have 10 men behind the ball and just constant crosses, he’ll fire away or block every one

Put him in a position where he has to play higher, think more he can’t cope.

But agree with first point, he shouldn’t be playing for England or Man Utd

Totally agree with this, probably a nice bloke who is committed to England but he's not getting a game for United for a reason, and shouldn't be anywhere near first choice for England for the same reason. The fact that he and Henderson are almost automatic on the team sheet shows how much of a dinosaur Southgate is becoming.

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He’s a good player that doesn’t suit how the games adapted recently.

If you have 10 men behind the ball and just constant crosses, he’ll fire away or block every one

Put him in a position where he has to play higher, think more he can’t cope.

But agree with first point, he shouldn’t be playing for England or Man Utd

Stick him somewhere like Everton or Burnley he would do an amazing job for you and be loved by their fans, wrong club, wrong time and he's lost his confidence, he's probably out of contention for England for a bit, but could work his way back in, he needs a move to a lower expecting premier club.

If you stuck him in our defence he would stop most of the stupid soft goals we have conceded.

He is a brilliant player by our standards and it's not his fault that ManU paid £60mllion too much for him!

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He wants to count his blessings that he's not Raheem Sterling. The Daily Mail would be printing a weekend supplement criticising him if he was playing as poorly as Maguire, and in every aspect of his life.

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Stick him somewhere like Everton or Burnley he would do an amazing job for you and be loved by their fans, wrong club, wrong time and he's lost his confidence, he's probably out of contention for England for a bit, but could work his way back in, he needs a move to a lower expecting premier club.

If you stuck him in our defence he would stop most of the stupid soft goals we have conceded.

He is a brilliant player by our standards and it's not his fault that ManU paid £60mllion too much for him!

He's slow in thought and deed. That inflated fee that was paid for him is the sole reason he still gets picked for England.
A Player that cost that much HAS to be good, right?

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He's slow in thought and deed. That inflated fee that was paid for him is the sole reason he still gets picked for England.
A Player that cost that much HAS to be good, right?

Do you think Southgate makes his selections based on a players previous value? I can't see that happening.

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He wants to count his blessings that he's not Raheem Sterling. The Daily Mail would be printing a weekend supplement criticising him if he was playing as poorly as Maguire, and in every aspect of his life.

Agree he was another one who was very harshly treated, a very good player he's also been bullied by fans, pundits, and the media, Ahsley Cole had loads of stick too, I think it's often the high transfer fees that single some of these players out.

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Stick him somewhere like Everton or Burnley he would do an amazing job for you and be loved by their fans, wrong club, wrong time and he's lost his confidence, he's probably out of contention for England for a bit, but could work his way back in, he needs a move to a lower expecting premier club.

If you stuck him in our defence he would stop most of the stupid soft goals we have conceded.

He is a brilliant player by our standards and it's not his fault that ManU paid £60mllion too much for him!

Why are you comparing him by our standards - a lower Championship side?
Actually, I think he'd be good for us but not brilliant.

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Why are you comparing him by our standards - a lower Championship side?
Actually, I think he'd be good for us but not brilliant.

Just pointing out that fans like some us laugh at a player who is ten times better than Goutas.

The main point was that he's a top Premier League quality defender just not currently good enough for the top eight. With full confidence he wouldn't be that far away, he was overpriced but sold at £80Million for a reason.

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Do you think Southgate makes his selections based on a players previous value? I can't see that happening.

Are you telling me that a manager wouldn't feel swayed to play someone who cost a world record transfer for a defender?
Then, when he has Maguire in the camp, he finds out he's a really genuine, likeable guy, who's good on the training ground and brings something to the dressing room and follows the manager's instructions.

It's the British trait - knock someone down, then try to build them up again.

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Just pointing out that fans like some us laugh at a player who is ten times better than Goutas.

The main point was that he's a top Premier League quality defender just not currently good enough for the top eight. With full confidence he wouldn't be that far away, he was overpriced but sold at £80Million for a reason.

Then you can't use the words "top Premier League quality defender" if he's not good enough for a top eight club. That would suggest he's average at best.