FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

This is football

In a few games players who performed badly tonight will put in a shift and make us think wtf didn't he play like that against Boro ?

It's supposed to make us embrace the wonderful game but it's never made me smile

[ccfcbluebird]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Erol Bulut admitted his Cardiff side were suffering with tiredness but was angered at crucial 'offside' goal

https://nation.cymru/sport/erol-bulut-angered-at-offside-goal-in-tired-display-by-the-bluebirds/

[bluesp]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Erol Bulut admitted his Cardiff side were suffering with tiredness but was angered at crucial 'offside' goal

https://nation.cymru/sport/erol-bulu...the-bluebirds/

I did think the first looked offside when I saw it live

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Worst we’ve played this season IMO.
Adams at right back was a very odd choice and it really pegged us back.

Ng has been linking up very well with Tanner so I’d like to have seen Panzo given a go on the left.

Grant was as bad as Adams, don’t think he beat his man once and lost the ball so many times.
Can’t get on his back though as he has contributed a lot over the winning run.

I think Wintle did ok (better than Ralls) but don’t get why he was playing in an advanced role when Colwill or Robinson could have slotted in comfortably.

Then the decision to bring on Ugbo for Tanner?

Ahh well, the team and Bulut deserve praise for the great run that they put together.

Hope we bounce back against Watford, but I fear a shellacking with the players that we have out.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

We're a team/squad made up of virtually free transfers and loan signings, couple with 4 injuries to players who probably would have been on the pitch tonight. Getting a team from being technically relegated to finish mid table in that situation would be nothing short of a football miracle.We're in a false position and so are 'Boro. If we are mid/lower mid table at Christmas that's success in my book.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

We lost the midfield battle. Boro were much sharper in that department. They got on Siopis early as he's the 'out' ball and they squeezed us well when we were in possession. Bad night.

Agreed, with our lack of technique in the middle of the park and our feebleness up front (Tanner’s shot against the post apart), the last hour or so was worryingly like watching us play last season - it was our worst away league performance of the season so far, but we’ve shown we’re better than that in most of our matches, even in defeat at Leicester and Ipswich, we aren’t half getting a lot of injuries lately though.

[olderblue]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Agreed, with our lack of technique in the middle of the park and our feebleness up front (Tanner’s shot against the post apart), the last hour or so was worryingly like watching us play last season - it was our worst away league performance of the season so far, but we’ve shown we’re better than that in most of our matches, even in defeat at Leicester and Ipswich, we aren’t half getting a lot of injuries lately though.

The injuries to key players probably confirmed to Bulut that we need better options, two transfer windows down the line and Bulut will build a much better successful squad than we have now.

He’s done very well with the introduction of a couple of key players, Siopis and Goutas already and I expect more like that will follow.

It’s all ifs and ands but Grant and Tanner efforts go in on another day and it’s a totally different story.

Hopefully soon we’ll have Collins, ODowda and Bowler back in contention and obviously when Rambo is back, game on.

After the results tonight, we could be 7th or 8th in the league.

Who would have thought that after the dross we have been watching over the last few years

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

I've only seen the highlights which obviously don't give you a very good picture of the overall game. I will say though that Tanner was unlucky hitting the post and Grant shot when through on goal when Tanner had 5m of space right in front of goal (accepted that he missed a similar chance recently).

And I'm certain their goal was offside. So, irrespective of how poor we were, we weren't far off getting a result.

Also on a positive note, Bulut suggested Collins isn't far off match ready and Ramsey won't need an op - although he also said they are still awaiting a medical report so I don't know how he knows that.

[John Buchanan]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Please me and you will be rewarded; disappoint me and you will be punished. No, not an extract from 50 Shades, the only way that I can fathom some of Erol's team selections and substitutions. Adams came on and ( I thought) played well on Saturday, so he gets shoehorned into the starting line up, despite having a right back ready to go. Ollie makes a mistake and gets hooked, despite being our main attacking outlet and (I thought) playing very well. Colwill has neither really pleased or displeased his master so remains in no man's land, sometimes on, sometimes off. I like Mr Bulut a lot, but I do think he needs to sort his head out a bit in a couple of areas.

Perversions aside, I thought that, for almost half the game, we controlled things well despite not looking particularly threatening. We have a lot of key players out, it was away to a team that will be challenging for the title. We continue to improve. Heads up, march on.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

That's a very good point. Of course it's disappointing when we lose but some people just can't take defeat and waste no time in castigating the players and the manager despite us winning four in a row, a statistic that seemed highly improbable after the carnage of the previous season.

Probably because the game was there for the taking.

We had a few chances to go 1 up with the Boro crowd on their back.

We could have won that game even playing poorly and my opinion was 3 points dropped

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Etete unlikely to be available against Watford

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67002095

[Dave Blue]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Very unlucky with injuries. Could have been a different game if Tanner scores, or if Grant had squared the ball. Yes I also thought the goal was offside and was surprised it was given.
The worry was the lack of drive to get back in the match afterwards. It was like watching last season again.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: MIDDLESBROUGH v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

I think plenty of people on here have been very complimentary of Bulut during the last month and his tactics and the in game changes he's made.

Tonight a win maybe wasn't on the cards but now it's the second time he's replaced Tanner who was our main attacking threat with Ugbo and we've completely lost shape and offered less going forward afterwards, and Adams being on the pitch after half time with two full back options on the bench (even if you think it wasn't a strange decision to even roll the dice and start him there) can only be described as absolutely bizarre.

Doesn't mean anyone has lost faith in Bulut or doesn't think he's the best manager we've had in forever, but we're here to discuss the games.

What I'm hearing is 'bulut is good, but id be better', you wouldn't have made the mistakes he made, right?

[Eric Cartman]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Bottom line is that none of us are in training, in the medical room or sitting on the bench. Pretending that you have any idea why subs were made or why tactical decisions were made is just childish.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: FT: MIDDLESBROUGH 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Cool, anyone got anything else to talk about seeing as we aren’t allowed to talk tactics on a football message board then?