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  • #31
    Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

    Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Johnson's idiocy made a situation caused by Iran's callousness much worse than it should have been. Still if you were a Johnson apologist looking for scapegoats you could do worse than follow LoM's lead and try to pin it on the poor woman herself!

    https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...=1#post4805078
    Much worse don’t make me laugh some on here just want to bash Boris for anything. If you want to talk apologist then we need to look at labours last 3 leaders. Milliband, Corbyn and this clown.

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    • #32
      Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

      Originally posted by Whisperer View Post
      Much worse don’t make me laugh some on here just want to bash Boris for anything. If you want to talk apologist then we need to look at labours last 3 leaders. Milliband, Corbyn and this clown.
      You will need to explain your apologist whataboutery in relation to this as I have no idea what you are talking about.

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      • #33
        Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

        Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
        You will need to explain your apologist whataboutery in relation to this as I have no idea what you are talking about.
        Steady now Cyril - I think you’ll find that you brought up apologists.

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        • #34
          Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

          Originally posted by Whisperer View Post
          Much worse don’t make me laugh some on here just want to bash Boris for anything. If you want to talk apologist then we need to look at labours last 3 leaders. Milliband, Corbyn and this clown.
          is this a parody account?

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          • #35
            Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

            Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
            You will need to explain your apologist whataboutery in relation to this as I have no idea what you are talking about.
            whataboutery - when someone refuses to see parallels that are relevant or doesn't want to accept there may be other forces at play.

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            • #36
              Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

              Originally posted by Rjk View Post
              is this a parody account?
              I don't know, is it?

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              • #37
                Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                Originally posted by Whisperer View Post
                Steady now Cyril - I think you’ll find that you brought up apologists.
                Yep. LoM producing an argument that the lady shouldn't have gone to Iran in the first place in a thread criticising Boris Johnson for his actions. The bit I don't get is what Milliband, Corbyn and Starmer have to do with it.

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                • #38
                  Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                  Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                  whataboutery - when someone refuses to see parallels that are relevant or doesn't want to accept there may be other forces at play.
                  Like making parallels to infanticide when there is a thread about the murder of a grown female you mean?

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                  • #39
                    Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                    Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                    Yep. LoM producing an argument that the lady shouldn't have gone to Iran in the first place in a thread criticising Boris Johnson for his actions. The bit I don't get is what Milliband, Corbyn and Starmer have to do with it.
                    Yeh, its my fault

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                    • #40
                      Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                      Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
                      What a despicable country Iran is, why hasn’t our government and the UN done more for her

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56390394
                      How do you ‘force’ a despot Government to give back someone who they are clearly holding hostage for no reason, without actually declaring war and going to get her back, during which she would probably be killed anyway. Answers on a postcard please.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                        How do you ‘force’ a despot Government to give back someone who they are clearly holding hostage for no reason, without actually declaring war and going to get her back, during which she would probably be killed anyway. Answers on a postcard please.
                        Well if I had the answers I probably wouldn’t be posting on here about the poor woman’s situation, she’d be free. Where has declaring war been mentioned?

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                        • #42
                          Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                          Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                          How do you ‘force’ a despot Government to give back someone who they are clearly holding hostage for no reason, without actually declaring war and going to get her back, during which she would probably be killed anyway. Answers on a postcard please.
                          Follow the money and freeze the assets.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                            Originally posted by Whisperer View Post
                            Follow the money and freeze the assets.
                            are you aware how long there have been economic sanctions against Iran?

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                            • #44
                              Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                              Like making parallels to infanticide when there is a thread about the murder of a grown female you mean?
                              we don't assume all mothers are going to kill their new borns, therefore we shouldn't assume all men are going to harm women. it was a simple enough parallel. You can only begin to imagine my shock to find out you're struggling with it.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Nazannin Ratcliffe

                                Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                                we don't assume all mothers are going to kill their new borns, therefore we shouldn't assume all men are going to harm women. it was a simple enough parallel. You can only begin to imagine my shock to find out you're struggling with it.
                                I'd forgotten how easily you shock

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