A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

He might not have meant it as a back pass, but the goalkeeper turned it into one by picking it up. You see incidents where a defender slices a clearance and the keeper catches it because there’s no way it could be construed as a back pass, but this was different . The ball was so close to the goal with so many players near by that the keeper panicked - the law was brought in to stop things like that happening and, unless there were two touches as I suggested , it was a clear free kick.

Agreed definitely a back pass.

[splott parker]

Re: A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

If it had been at the other end and his touch resulted in another Bristol player netting, would it be classed as an assist by the stats gurus? I’d say yes…… he played the ball back to his ‘keeper.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Thinking about it, the back-pass rule isn't actually about passing back. A keeper could be in front of a player passing the ball to him and the offence be penalised.....

[NinianOpinion1927]

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I don't think it was a back pass

[the other bob wilson]

Re: A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

I don't think it was a back pass

What was it then?

[NinianOpinion1927]

Re: A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

What was it then?

A spur of the moment touch with the intention of controlling the ball.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

A spur of the moment touch with the intention of controlling the ball.

Hum, I can see what you mean, but defending in the six yard box in the centre of the goal is not the place anyone wants to be taking two touches. I would argue that as soon as the goalkeeper picked the ball up it had to be seen as a back pass whether it was intended to be one or not..

[BLUETIT]

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A spur of the moment touch with the intention of controlling the ball.

You’ve just described a back pass

[2b2bdoo]

Re: A Talking Point from Saturdays Game

Hum, I can see what you mean, but defending in the six yard box in the centre of the goal is not the place anyone wants to be taking two touches. I would argue that as soon as the goalkeeper picked the ball up it had to be seen as a back pass whether it was intended to be one or not..

I would be interested to know the actual rule. For me the intentional part is the most important.

[RichardM]

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I would be interested to know the actual rule. For me the intentional part is the most important.

Law 12
An indirect free kick is awarded if the goalkeeper "touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate"

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

[Pontprennau Bluebird]

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The Back Pass rule was invented to prevent defenders time wasting by deliberately passing back to the GK. In this I’m not convinced a deliberate pass was intentional and certainly not to waste time. Had a free kick been awarded then perhaps the punishment would not have fitted the crime, so to speak.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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The Back Pass rule was invented to prevent defenders time wasting by deliberately passing back to the GK. In this I’m not convinced a deliberate pass was intentional and certainly not to waste time. Had a free kick been awarded then perhaps the punishment would not have fitted the crime, so to speak.

It was a back pass, he wanted to pass it back to his keeper so we couldn't score.

It doesn't matter why they brought it in.

Law 12
An indirect free kick is awarded if the goalkeeper "touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate"

[Henry Hill]

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It was a back pass, he wanted to pass it back to his keeper so we couldn't score.

It doesn't matter why they brought it in.

Law 12
An indirect free kick is awarded if the goalkeeper "touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate"

It wasn’t deliberate.

[BLUETIT]

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It wasn’t deliberate.

No, he just done it on purpose

[splott parker]

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It wasn’t deliberate.

He deliberately touched the ball, the ‘keeper, as well, was guilty of turning it into a back pass by handling it.