Wales Squad

[City123]

Re: Wales Squad

Isn't it more or less the same group of players that were in the squad for the draw against the USA and the wins vs Ireland and Finland, when Vaulks was also absent?

The Wales management seem happier with players like Morell who are comfortable on the ball and can pass it than hustlers like Vaulks. I was in Croatia for the last competitive Wales game he started where Modric and co gave our midfield an embarrassing run around. We seem to be berating the technical capability of our central midfield and then bemoan that one of their number hasn't made the step up to international level.

Joe Morrell can't get in the Luton team, Levitt, Sheehan and Smith all play at a lower level of football. Added to that, they're all very samey players (especially Levitt, Smith & Morrell) there's no need for all of them. Vaulks would offer a different more physical option

Levitt is such a bizarre choice. He's benchwarming for Croatian relegation strugglers while Vaulks is playing for a top half Championship and Robbie Burton is getting gametime for Zagreb

[OurManFlint II]

Re: Wales Squad

Isn't it more or less the same group of players that were in the squad for the draw against the USA and the wins vs Ireland and Finland, when Vaulks was also absent?

The Wales management seem happier with players like Morell who are comfortable on the ball and can pass it than hustlers like Vaulks. I was in Croatia for the last competitive Wales game he started where Modric and co gave our midfield an embarrassing run around. We seem to be berating the technical capability of our central midfield and then bemoan that one of their number hasn't made the step up to international level.

To be fair Croatia were world cup runners up and had a midfield consisting of people from Barcelona and Madrid, anybody using that as a yard stick to measure is being unjust.

However looking at recent Wales Teams, we seem to play 5 at the back an another central defender in the midfield.

[AfricanBluebird]

Re: Wales Squad

Some of the selections have a youth for youth's sake look to them when you consider the Vaulks omission. I'm not saying Vaulks should be in the starting line up, but he's got more to offer at the moment than, for example, Morrell, Levitt and Sheehan.

No David Brooks either I see,

Agreed. Very odd squad.

I would have thought this would have been an ideal opportunity to bring Brooks back in.

Harsh on Vaulks, especially when seeing who has been picked.

[surge]

Re: Wales Squad

Am sure there is no problem with Will's personality but we're only a few weeks on from his asking why Cardiff can't be happy playing to their reputation and admitting it's a style of football that suits his game more. Our worst performances of the season have seen midfield over-run by pass and move football of Norwich, Swansea, Brentford and that's exactly the type of football most international sides employ. Vaulks hasn't yet impressed on international scene whereas others have when given the same chance.

I have massive sympathy for him on basis of what he does well and how well he's done here but can see some logic in why Page isn't diverting from The Wales Way by picking him for this particular camp. Am sure he has a role to play in future camps, and cause he's a stand up guy will relish proving his doubters wrong, but this is all about trusting what has worked when first two qualifier games are so, so important.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Wales Squad

To be fair Croatia were world cup runners up and had a midfield consisting of people from Barcelona and Madrid, anybody using that as a yard stick to measure is being unjust.

However looking at recent Wales Teams, we seem to play 5 at the back an another central defender in the midfield.

Maybe harsh but since that game Wales have played 10 competitive matches winning 6 and drawing 3 in which time Vaulks played 3 minutes and Morrell was a regular starter.

[surge]

Re: Wales Squad

Joe Morrell can't get in the Luton team, Levitt, Sheehan and Smith all play at a lower level of football. Added to that, they're all very samey players (especially Levitt, Smith & Morrell) there's no need for all of them. Vaulks would offer a different more physical option

Levitt is such a bizarre choice. He's benchwarming for Croatian relegation strugglers while Vaulks is playing for a top half Championship and Robbie Burton is getting gametime for Zagreb

Lewitt moved there like two weeks ago. Have they even played enough games in that time for him to be considered bench warming?

Patience is needed with out young lot I reckon. We only had two players showing themselves to be champions League players in Euro 2016 but did alright based on a club like spirit, massive fans support, familiarity with the system, being solid in defence and those two names doing damage in attack. Let's just wait and see if we can get two plus out of the next crop which would show maintaining our standards or better. The other important measures being is whether we have a deeper squad in terms of talent and whether we have covered all 11 positions or whether we're completely missing a LB for example.

I would like to see Burton in a camp soon mind.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Wales Squad

I think Levitt is going to be a good player and Morrell never lets Wales down, but having moaned about City “samey” midfield for ages, I see signs here of Wales doing the same thing, but in the opposite direction. Vaulks would offer something a bit different and has a, spectacular, goal in him every now and then - unless I’ve forgotten about someone, I think of the midfielders selected and can’t come up with anyone who’ll score for us.

[surge]

Re: Wales Squad

Giggs has previously spoken about players needing to play which will no doubt be commented on with this group.

Still, I think this camp is a little bit different given how significant the games are. How many selections come out of left-field for a world cup/euros and this camp is of similar magnitude in importance.

[BlueArmy 86]

Re: Wales Squad

What a slap in the face for Vaulks. He should walk into that squad.

[mazadona10]

Re: Wales Squad

Morrell has put in a number of decent displays.
However, this is a farce it's all well and good to pick one type of player but when things get tough you need someone like Vaulks who will run and run.

He's showing that he can score goals from absolutely nothing and for me he is our most important midfielder in a team in promotion form. This has pissed me off.

[Rjk]

Re: Wales Squad

well he will probably be put in once ramsey drops out - or will that be brooks?

[surge]

Re: Wales Squad

well he will probably be put in once ramsey drops out - or will that be brooks?

Unfortunately it's probably too early for Ramsey and we need him to be built up for the Euros. Tyler Roberts to step into that role?

In terms of who replaces Rambo in the camp, and as harsh as this sounds, but Colwill as next man up? On basis of Colwill having better technical skill than Vaulks and MM identifying him as possible solution to "What happens when Moore needs a rest?" which is also going to be asked at international level. I don't want to come down on Vaulks who definitely has a part to play in future camps but would you select him if acting as manager of Brentford? I go back to that interview where he said this Cardiff team fits his style of play....

[OurManFlint II]

Re: Wales Squad

Maybe harsh but since that game Wales have played 10 competitive matches winning 6 and drawing 3 in which time Vaulks played 3 minutes and Morrell was a regular starter.

Agree, but harsh to miss out completely, especially with a friendly sandwiched in.

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

Re: Wales Squad

I think it's harsh on Vaulks, but I'm more pissed off that he's overlooked James Chester for James Lawrence.

Giggs is so pre occupied with players who can pass the ball that he's completely freezing out players who do other parts of the game well.

Or maybe I've just been watching Cardiff for too long.

[Pearcey3]

Re: Wales Squad

well he will probably be put in once ramsey drops out - or will that be brooks?

Brooks is out