Joey Barton thoughts?

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

Society has changed at a rapid pace over the last decade, too quickly for many.

Affirmative action has been gathering exponential momentum and it’s only natural that you are seeing a reaction.
Be it a boycott reaction to cynical virtueism from massive global brands or populist voting trends.
It’s there, clear to see that massive swathes of the Western World don’t like it or want it.

Liberalism has been hijacked by post modernism/deconstructionists IMO and it has been been a disaster for progressiveness.

The fact that a pig of a man, in Joey Barton is somehow getting press for this discourse is tragic, but inevitable really.
Possibly an opportunist or somebody that doesn’t give a flying **** what he says.

It’s the tip of the iceberg and people are getting more bigoted, as a reaction.
I have seen it happening for years.
Some will say that it’s a manifestation of those who already held bigoted beliefs.
I couldn’t disagree more.

It’s not even a left/right conversation anymore, we are riding a cultural pendulum that will swing back as far as gravity dictates.

[Dave Blue]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

They still seem to be chosen for their attractiveness. That seems to be a criteria for selection, regardless of past or present ability as presenter or pundit.

[Monster munch]

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Sky sports news has had some top crumpet women presenters for the last 20 years - Some real eye candy sorts!! Phwoahhh!!
As for the match day commentators / pundits though, as long as they know what their talking about dosn't really bother me what gender or how attractive / ugly they are - just as long as they can talk some sense.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

They still seem to be chosen for their attractiveness. That seems to be a criteria for selection, regardless of past or present ability as presenter or pundit.

Yes true, will they boot them off when they get old?

[Nobody's Rep]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

Joey is a kent of the highest order and if he was my son I would be embarrassed

[Rontomuk]

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Football focus on Saturday spent 10 to 15 minutes on Leah Williamson the captain of the English woman's team learning how to play the piano.

[splott parker]

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442 has really stepped up its coverage of the women’s game. I’m just not interested in it, so it’s annoying to me that I’m flipping pages. Of course the female game has its place, it’s own place, it’s being pushed and pushed but, to me, it’s a separate sport to the men’s game and could be treated as such with its own pundits.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

I got through the first sentence and decided whatever he was going to say is wrong.

[tforturton]

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I've seen this posted on Facebook, and almost every response has been in support of Barton - and I mean thousands. So someone is wrong.

[jon1959]

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David Squires majoring on Roy Hodgson this week - but manages a fine little side swipe at Barton on the way!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2023/dec/12/david-squires-on-roy-hodgson-mood-crystal-palace

[BlueArmy 86]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

He’s a twat and I wish someone else was making the argument, but I agree with the main point. I’m fed up of the tokenism in men’s football.

Some female pundits are good, and I think they’re there in merit. Too many are rubbish and getting numerous jobs. I also don’t like women on commentary, and that’s not sexist, their voice is not suited and doesn’t create the same emotion or drama.

Shoot me down.

[llan bluebird]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

Presenters and commentators have a totally different skill set, Barton is talking about the "money for old rope" gig of punditry. Middle-aged white blokes get well served in that bracket, apart from most of them being millionaires. The sky girl who presents the Wales and City games is an excellent presenter/host.

Rugby never sounded the same without Bill McClaren until I got used to Butler, it takes time to adjust the same will be the same women commentators, the ones that grate will eventually lose the gig to the good ones.

Punditery is a load of cobblers though, who is really any good? Are they not just celebrity fans? Carrager-Liverpool. Neville/Keane Man U, Shearer Newcastle, etc........

The Neveille Carragher MNF is probably fully supported by a team of analysts, and this is what annoys me. Why hasn't sky recruited an experienced analyst who can speak and give real-time information? Have you seen how often Bulut goes to his iPad during a game, why can't we find out what he is seeing?

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: Joey Barton thoughts?

I do think I’d rather absolutely anyone, regardless of gender, or knowledge to take over the CCTV commentary.

They truly are abysmal!

[NYCBlue]

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I've seen this posted on Facebook, and almost every response has been in support of Barton - and I mean thousands. So someone is wrong.

People have a rich history of being wrong.