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    This will be the 8th time we'll have faced Plymouth on Boxing day. Our 7 previous efforts have seen us draw 2 and lose 5. We've also faced them twice on Dec 27th, in 1949 and 28th, in 1982 and 2008. We won in 1949, lost in 1982 but won 1-0 in 2008. Our Christmastime record over Plymouth is 2 wins, 2 draws and 6 defeats.

    Our overall record against them is 22 wins, 18 draws and 18 defeats, yet Christmastime, particularly Boxing day, has been pretty fruitless for us. Strange.

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    Without any stats to back it up i always felt we’ve done pretty badly on Boxing Day in general

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    • #3
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      I had a bad feeling when I saw the Boxing Day fixture. Plymouth always seemed to beat us. Thankyou Eric for confirming my recollections. Hopefully we can scrape a draw against manager less Plymouth this time.

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        Due a win

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          Originally posted by Don Corleone View Post
          Without any stats to back it up i always felt we’ve done pretty badly on Boxing Day in general
          27 wins, 28 draws and 26 defeats is our Boxing day record, scoring 108, conceding 115, so hardly great nor rubbish. No great runs of great or bad form on Boxing day until 1985, when we went 14 seasons without losing a game, winning 8 and drawing 6.

          It's quite something to consider that, in our worst seasons in the league, we had our best run on Boxing day in our history. Since then our record has been absolutely dreadful. We've won twice on Boxing day in our last 23 seasons, beating Coventry and Palace at home in 2010 and 2012 respectively. The Palace win was particularly vital in our promotion bid. We've drawn 9 and lost 11. We didn't play on Boxing day in 2021 for obvious reasons.

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          • #6
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            Thanks Eric, think it’s that run from 1985 that has given me that impression then!

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            • #7
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              is there anyone we've faced more often on boxing day ? it seems like it's a guaranteed fixture if we are both in the same division, at least in the last 20 years

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                Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                is there anyone we've faced more often on boxing day ? it seems like it's a guaranteed fixture if we are both in the same division, at least in the last 20 years
                Plymouth and Swansea (7 times), though Plymouth will hold the record on Tuesday.

                Bristol City (5 times), then Villa, Coventry, Palace, Reading, Swindon and West Brom (3 times).

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                  Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                  27 wins, 28 draws and 26 defeats is our Boxing day record, scoring 108, conceding 115, so hardly great nor rubbish. No great runs of great or bad form on Boxing day until 1985, when we went 14 seasons without losing a game, winning 8 and drawing 6.

                  It's quite something to consider that, in our worst seasons in the league, we had our best run on Boxing day in our history. Since then our record has been absolutely dreadful. [b]We've won twice on Boxing day in our last 23 seasons[b], beating Coventry and Palace at home in 2010 and 2012 respectively. The Palace win was particularly vital in our promotion bid. We've drawn 9 and lost 11. We didn't play on Boxing day in 2021 for obvious reasons.
                  Wow, a staggering stat that.

                  Let's hope Erol reads this MB.
                  Get all the players up the Vale for the weekend, Christmaswith the family is cancelled!

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                  • #10
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                    Well one things for certain they will sell out their ticket allocation

                    We could give them 4000 and they would snap them up

                    Tremendous away support

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                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      Well one things for certain they will sell out their ticket allocation

                      We could give them 4000 and they would snap them up

                      Tremendous away support
                      In fairness, if I lived in Plymouth, I'd do anything for a day away!

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                      • #12
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                        I don't think we're that motivated at present, even allowing for our fortuitous win at Wednesday, so I'm predicting a 1-3 defeat. Hopefully we can then draw a line under our recent dire performances and get in some badly needed quality to give the club and fans a lift.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                          In fairness, if I lived in Plymouth, I'd do anything for a day away!
                          It's got a good live venue for bands

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                            Originally posted by Don Corleone View Post
                            Without any stats to back it up i always felt we’ve done pretty badly on Boxing Day in general
                            I’m not sure I have ever since us win on Boxing Day since 1987

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                              Didn't realise they lost Schumacker to Sjoke - so new manager (caretaker) bounce to add to our abysmal Bday record against them. Omens aren't great😟

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