Peter Lorimer

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Peter Lorimer

RIP, perhaps one of the few likeable ones out of the bunch of dirty tw@ts that were involved with Leeds. And TLG is correct, they weren’t dominant in the late 60s/early 70s era, won a few things but were more bridesmaid than bride. Revie and his lieutenants Bremner & Giles were dodgy as f*ck with plenty of back up from other team mates. Perhaps if they’d have concentrated on football, because they could turn it on on occasions, rather than the dark arts they may have been more successful.

Agree completely, I remember them concentrating on playing football and cutting down on all of the gamesmanship in 73/74 and they won the title comfortably.

As mentioned above, Lorimer (along with Eddie Gray, Paul Madeley and, possibly, Mick Jones) was not one of their dirty players and was known most for his cannonball shot - City's John Buchanan was often compared to him when it came to shooting power). Lorimer stayed with Leeds through their decline in the 80s and was in their side which played us in the old Second Division - from memory, the rest of their great team had left them or retired by then.

RIP

[NYCBlue]

Re: Peter Lorimer

A big part of Revie's "dirty Leeds" side of the 70's.

They were as dominant a team then as say MU were in the 90's/00's or Liverpool in the 80's.

Widely accepted to have the hardest shot in the game.

RIP.

No they weren't. In between 1969 and 1974 they won the league twice and the FA Cup once. Liverpool did the same between '73 and '76. And Derby won the league twice between '72 and '75. Revie left in 1974 and European Cup Final notwithstanding it was pretty much over for Leeds by then. They were a good team for about 10 years like Derby, Everton and Forest in the 70s and 80s. But they never came near to dominating like Man U or Liverpool.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Peter Lorimer

He’ll live until hes 200 that ****.

Lizzard people innit?

[MacAdder]

Re: Peter Lorimer

Hardly. Leeds only won two league titles spaced five years apart, which is incomparable with the Man Utd and Liverpool sides you mentioned. Indeed, isn't it a commonly-held view that the Leeds team of the late-60's to the mid-70's were far less dominant than a side with their abilities should have been?

Perhaps I should have added the word "almost" in there.
They were certainly the most consistent team of that era (late 60's early 70's) and as you say they should really have had much more silverware than they managed.

They always seemed to be the team everyone "hated" (probably too strong a word) let's say wanted to lose, unless you were a Leeds fan of course and it was not just the league they should have won more times, the FA Cup too.

In the popularity stakes they could be considered in the same way as the aforementioned teams if not for the trophies they won.
In fact runners-up many times, they could arguably be considered seasoned bottlers.

[MacAdder]

Re: Peter Lorimer

No they weren't. In between 1969 and 1974 they won the league twice and the FA Cup once. Liverpool did the same between '73 and '76. And Derby won the league twice between '72 and '75. Revie left in 1974 and European Cup Final notwithstanding it was pretty much over for Leeds by then. They were a good team for about 10 years like Derby, Everton and Forest in the 70s and 80s. But they never came near to dominating like Man U or Liverpool.

See my reply to TLG.

Also you've got to remember that 10 years is almost a lifetime when you are a kid.

[MacAdder]

Re: Peter Lorimer

RIP, perhaps one of the few likeable ones out of the bunch of dirty tw@ts that were involved with Leeds. And TLG is correct, they weren’t dominant in the late 60s/early 70s era, won a few things but were more bridesmaid than bride. Revie and his lieutenants Bremner & Giles were dodgy as f*ck with plenty of back up from other team mates. Perhaps if they’d have concentrated on football, because they could turn it on on occasions, rather than the dark arts they may have been more successful.

Perhaps they could have won the title better... without cheating :hehe:

Agree Lorimer seemed a decent bloke, as was Allan Clarke and of course Gary Sprake, perhaps a little biased with the latter

[splott parker]

Re: Peter Lorimer

Perhaps they could have won the title better... without cheating :hehe:

Agree Lorimer seemed a decent bloke, as was Allan Clarke and of course Gary Sprake, perhaps a little biased with the latter

Gary Sprake, in later years, was persona non grata at Elland Rd, even attended games incognito because he spilled the beans about the shady goings on in the Revie era.

[splott parker]

Re: Peter Lorimer

Perhaps they could have won the title better... without cheating :hehe:

Agree Lorimer seemed a decent bloke, as was Allan Clarke and of course Gary Sprake, perhaps a little biased with the latter

Allan Clarke soon had the decentness drummed out of him after leaving Leicester. Sniffer was as evil as his team mates, dirty, sly bugger.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Peter Lorimer

Very true.

Three score and ten was considered a good innings not so long ago but they say people are living longer now :shrug:

It does seem strange how many of these household names are passing at around the late 60 early 70 age which I don't consider to be old.

I suppose footballers of the generation before were dying at a similar rate it was just that they weren't so well known by the masses, pre-TV.

My way of thinking regarding mortality is that I would have submitted an official appeal if the Grim Reaper came to take me before my 60th birthday and to consider every day breathing thereafter as a wonderful bonus.

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Peter Lorimer

My way of thinking regarding mortality is that I would have submitted an official appeal if the Grim Reaper came to take me before my 60th birthday and to consider every day breathing thereafter as a wonderful bonus.

:hehe: yes, me too. My dad went at 64, so I consider having made it into my 60s as a decent result

[MacAdder]

Re: Peter Lorimer

Gary Sprake, in later years, was persona non grata at Elland Rd, even attended games incognito because he spilled the beans about the shady goings on in the Revie era.

He's even more decent than I thought :hehe:

[life on mars]

Re: Peter Lorimer

It's amusing when you consider the many Welsh / Leeds player connections , and our dislike of the team.

[tforturton]

Re: Peter Lorimer

I've got this strange memory of Lorimer covering to Judaism, so he could play for some Israeli side. At that time, they had a ban of the import of international players, and this was the only way round it. But I can't see this mentioned anywhere in his obituaries, or on Wikipedia. Am I imagining it?