If you were the manager...could you do better?

[2b2bdoo]

Re: If you were the manager...could you do better?

Not really, I don’t see an outstanding 11 in this squad, options limited until ODowda and Ramsey are back.

Don’t always agree with the line ups but also don’t see much that would massively change things for the better at the moment.

[splott parker]

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Who did you play for?

A few clubs, it was a few clubs because I was the twat they were pointing the finger at:facepalm:

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: If you were the manager...could you do better?

A few clubs, it was a few clubs because I was the twat they were pointing the finger at:facepalm:

:hehe:

[NinianOpinion1927]

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I think a lot of people are disenchanted by our players of late. I personally think this is because our park the bus and hoof when in doubt tactics do not exactly flatter the types of players we have. We have seen glimpses of the potential in our side..normally when we up the tempo and play up the feed with grounded passes and pace. People are quick to forget these moments due to the dull manager's immediate reverting of tactics in the very next match.

Anyways..enough of that this is what I'd do

My team with an aggressive 1 to 2 touch passing, high press but with less regards for tracking back would be :

-------------Alnwick----------------
Ng--Goutas--McGuiness--Collins
--------------Ralls-------------------
-------Colwill----Robinson--------
Tanner---------------------Bowler
--------------Etete------------------

If we ever seen O'Dowda and Ramsey back we can see Bowler share the right side with tanner. The link up between Collins and O'dowda was top draw earlier in the season. Robbo/Colwill or even Ralls drop for Ramsey

I'm no football manager. I have played competitively and can see plenty of 'professionals' that seem to have no idea how they became successful as a player.

What would you do? or not do..i guess

No, i'm not a manager so i couldn't do better. But i don't like Bulut and don't rate him

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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No, i'm not a manager so i couldn't do better. But i don't like Bulut and don't rate him

U don't like him as a manager or you don't like him ?

I don't know warnock and I think his rule brittania politics are embarrassing but he's clearly a good manager

Brian Clough was a left wing type and spoke a lot of sense about the hopeless idiots involved in football in the boardroom ....but he was a very bullying manager and person in general.

I didn't like that side of him at all

But a great manager

Bulut appears to be fat from perfect but he's doing OK given our league position

What the christ do people expect

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Brian Clough was a left wing type and spoke a lot of sense about the hopeless idiots involved in football in the boardroom ....but he was a very bullying manager and person in general.

Oddly enough, I've listened to a lot of podcasts about Cloughie and ex players always talk highly of him.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Oddly enough, I've listened to a lot of podcasts about Cloughie and ex players always talk highly of him.

Oddly enough I have listened to plenty of players who said he was a bully and ruled by fear

Bob Paisley was a genuine nice guy in football and Bobby Robson too

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Oddly enough I have listened to plenty of players who said he was a bully and ruled by fear

I'll keep my ear out for that.

I know that he commanded the utmost respect, even to Stuart Pearce fixing his wife's iron when he was England captain or he'd be out of the side.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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I'll keep my ear out for that.

I know that he commanded the utmost respect, even to Stuart Pearce fixing his wife's iron when he was England captain or he'd be out of the side.

I think Sludge is on the money with this one Eric. I used to think the same as you. But the more I read about the Justin Fashanu situation, it changed my mind. I think there's a lot of rewritten history about Clough. Certainly, by today's standards, he'd be classed as a bully and homophobic. People argue 'he was a man of his times'. But looking at it in 2024, he's not someone I'd put on a pedestal.

Here's a piece written by Peter Tatchell in 2020 https://www.petertatchellfoundation....me-out-as-gay/

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I think Sludge is on the money with this one Eric. I used to think the same as you. But the more I read about the Justin Fashanu situation, it changed my mind. I think there's a lot of rewritten history about Clough. Certainly, by today's standards, he'd be classed as a bully and homophobic. People argue 'he was a man of his times'. But looking at it in 2024, he's not someone I'd put on a pedestal.

Here's a piece written by Peter Tatchell in 2020 https://www.petertatchellfoundation....me-out-as-gay/

You could well be right about rewritten history regarding Clough.

The one line that stands out was Clough calling Fashanu a bloody poof. I'm not going to condone it and, while it was the language and attitude of the time blah blah, lots of people thought nothing about it and still carried on with it. Even now some want that sort of thing to carry on and you're woke if you disgree.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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You could well be right about rewritten history regarding Clough.

The one line that stands out was Clough calling Fashanu a bloody poof. I'm not going to condone it and, while it was the language and attitude of the time blah blah, lots of people thought nothing about it and still carried on with it. Even now some want that sort of thing to carry on and you're woke if you disgree.

Yeah, I agree. It's why that last point you make about being woke is really important imo. It has to be countered because if you take the case of, say Joey Barton and that he was, until recently, a manager, boss, responsible for employees' well-being - who really knows what football managers are really like? Football seems, to me, to be one of the few places that still employs people in senior positions who wouldn't be allowed to 'work' in other professions. If they're delivering success on the pitch they're adored by fans even though they may well be obnoxious individuals with horrible views and attitudes IRL.

[Wash DC Blue]

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Oddly enough I have listened to plenty of players who said he was a bully and ruled by fear

Bob Paisley was a genuine nice guy in football and Bobby Robson too

If you get the chance.
Read or listen to the story of the young Sunderland lad that he took into his home.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Yeah, I agree. It's why that last point you make about being woke is really important imo. It has to be countered because if you take the case of, say Joey Barton and that he was, until recently, a manager, boss, responsible for employees' well-being - who really knows what football managers are really like? Football seems, to me, to be one of the few places that still employs people in senior positions who wouldn't be allowed to 'work' in other professions. If they're delivering success on the pitch they're adored by fans even though they may well be obnoxious individuals with horrible views and attitudes IRL.

I think there are probably plenty of other environments where people (usually men) are able to be as cutting and as inappropriate as they like, in order to get results from others. That doesn't matter. I'm just a woke, not someone of real importance.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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If you get the chance.
Read or listen to the story of the young Sunderland lad that he took into his home.

I've read that story. But how does it square with him punching a young player in the face for giving a goal away from a back pass? Even if that young lad was Roy Keane. We hear these tear-jerking stories about him but for every one there's an opposite side. I just think we need to be careful not to eulogise the bloke.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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I think there are probably plenty of other environments where people (usually men) are able to be as cutting and as inappropriate as they like, in order to get results from others. That doesn't matter. I'm just a woke, not someone of real importance.

I did think that when I wrote it. The film industry, government etc. There are lots of places still condoning or suppressing stuff that goes on in the workplace. I've been on the receiving end of some right bullies. Did they do me any harm? Too f*cking right they did!