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  • #16
    Re: Young Denham returns

    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
    How about, (I know it's not a popular theory on here) He goes to Dundee, trains well, forces himself into the team, plays well and develops that way. Everyone is happy. This football shit isn't as complicated as people think. :thumbup:
    Think that a "loan manager" is pretty standard practice nowadays tbf. Pretty certain it was part of Alan Curtis' role at Swansea years ago

    Pretty concerning Denham didn't play for Dundee Utd though, they're top but the Scottish Championship is some way off the standard of the English Championship. I remember him looking decent previously, even called up to a Wales squad?

    I do also remember him looking a bit slight and like he needed to bulk up a bit. You may be able to get away with that at u21s but lacking physicality will really hurt you at senior level, especially at centre back

    Am I right in thinking he's our only centre back cover?

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    • #17
      Re: Young Denham returns

      Originally posted by City123 View Post
      Think that a "loan manager" is pretty standard practice nowadays tbf. Pretty certain it was part of Alan Curtis' role at Swansea years ago

      Pretty concerning Denham didn't play for Dundee Utd though, they're top but the Scottish Championship is some way off the standard of the English Championship. I remember him looking decent previously, even called up to a Wales squad?

      I do also remember him looking a bit slight and like he needed to bulk up a bit. You may be able to get away with that at u21s but lacking physicality will really hurt you at senior level, especially at centre back

      Am I right in thinking he's our only centre back cover?
      Think Ng would switch to centreback and Romeo come in if one of Goutas and McGuinness had to miss games.

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      • #18
        Re: Young Denham returns

        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
        Think Ng would switch to centreback and Romeo come in if one of Goutas and McGuinness had to miss games.
        Probably. I think that would hurt us more than slotting in Denham (for instance)

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        • #19
          Re: Young Denham returns

          Originally posted by City123 View Post
          Think that a "loan manager" is pretty standard practice nowadays tbf. Pretty certain it was part of Alan Curtis' role at Swansea years ago

          Pretty concerning Denham didn't play for Dundee Utd though, they're top but the Scottish Championship is some way off the standard of the English Championship. I remember him looking decent previously, even called up to a Wales squad?

          I do also remember him looking a bit slight and like he needed to bulk up a bit. You may be able to get away with that at u21s but lacking physicality will really hurt you at senior level, especially at centre back

          Am I right in thinking he's our only centre back cover?
          Surely this now falls under the Development Coach, Davies is it?

          Denham needs to fill out. I guess that was part of the reason to send him to Scotland as it is very physical.

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          • #20
            Re: Young Denham returns

            Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
            Surely this now falls under the Development Coach, Davies is it?

            Denham needs to fill out. I guess that was part of the reason to send him to Scotland as it is very physical.
            That……and the deep-fried Mars bars.

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            • #21
              Re: Young Denham returns

              Panzo was first choice CB for a Championship play off finalist last season, and he couldn't get a sniff for us.

              It happens. Doesn't mean Denham "couldn't make the grade" there. They're top of their league, it's more likely that their manager has a settled partnership and he just hasn't had a chance.

              In the 10 or so games he played for us, he did well. I highly, highly doubt he isn't good enough for the Scottish 2nd tier.

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              • #22
                Re: Young Denham returns

                Originally posted by B. Oddie View Post
                He's back from Dundee and apparently hasn't played since July. That's a massive red flag for me.

                Shirley his development would have been better around the first team? Granted that's what will now happen, but why did it take the club this long to act?
                Saw this article, https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/spor...enham-burnley/ where the Dundee manager in August, insisted Denham was still in his plans, but "had to fight for his place"- so think like us with Panzo he didn't want to send him back right away just in case in emergency he had to break glass and use him; and would have been telling us and Denham just to bide his time and prove himself worthy of being picked.

                This was said after the 2 friendly appearances he made vs Blythe Spartans and Partick "baptisms of fire" in which he "didn't cover himself in glory" and he himself was "quite honest about his performances within those (games)"

                The manager after signing Denham found he had the chance to sign a CB he trusted as he'd had him elsewhere - and that lad has kept Denham out all season.

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                • #23
                  Re: Young Denham returns

                  York City didn't think Tanner was good enough for them last year and he's been a regular for us this season.
                  Football's a funny old game.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Young Denham returns

                    That's the truth about so many of our youngsters the problem is nobody ever makes it and we don't ever sell anybody on for a profit. Maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with our academy apart from the fact Darren purse is the coach,

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                    • #25
                      Re: Young Denham returns

                      Originally posted by pompey blue View Post
                      That's the truth about so many of our youngsters the problem is nobody ever makes it and we don't ever sell anybody on for a profit. Maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with our academy apart from the fact Darren purse is the coach,
                      The decent ones get snapped up by the big clubs.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Young Denham returns

                        Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
                        York City didn't think Tanner was good enough for them last year and he's been a regular for us this season.
                        Football's a funny old game.
                        Tanner and bowler would look much better with Moore upfront and Ramsey in the middle, the centre half can come across and double up on our right, as they have nothing to worry about in the middle.

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