Cardiff - Changes to your recycling

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Earlier today had a leaflet posted through letterbox, from Unite. They say they will be coming round shortly to ask for signatures to a petition which will be put to the council, asking them to 'get back round the table for negotiations..'. Whatever the rights of wrongs of a dispute, I really don't think the general public should be used as a bargaining tool..

Governments and councils always use the......ordinary hard working general public etc etc ......arguement in disputes between them and the unions

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Still better than the Vale.

Black bags x3 .....every 3 weeks

20 quid for green waste , grass etc

Seems OK?

Biggest problem is they change it every couple of years so people get confused but apart from that I think it's good mostly ?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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In my council area (Huntingdonshire) we have 3 bins, blue for recycle stuff like paper and plastic, green for garden waste, grass etc, black for everything else. Blue and black every two weeks on Thursday. So blue this week and black next week etc. The green bin is every 4 weeks on Wednesday. Now the council are stopping the green bin to save money but they will offer a special service for the early bird price of only £50 a year to have your green bin emptied. I can't remember the last time I remembered to put my green bin out on time. I don't think I will bother. Further east I have heard that Newmarket are changing to 5 different bins very soon.

People will burn it or dump it.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Central government cuts .....I said cuts but could have said something else ....means that green waste is the first to be charged for......it could be argued you are lucky to have a lawn and should take it to the tip yourself anyway in these hard times

Jesus Christ lucky to have a lawn

Are you for real?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Jesus Christ lucky to have a lawn

Are you for real?

A large proportion of residents in Cardiff won't have lawns

People living in exclusive areas complaining that it costs them 30 quid a year to have their grass cuttings taken away is laughable really

[The Bloop]

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A large proportion of residents in Cardiff won't have lawns

People living in exclusive areas complaining that it costs them 30 quid a year to have their grass cuttings taken away is laughable really

When all waste was put in a single bin no-one complained then about paying the same amount, whether they had a lawn or not?
Should I also pay to have a separate hygiene waste collection?

[2b2bdoo]

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Black bags x3 .....every 3 weeks

20 quid for green waste , grass etc

Seems OK?

Biggest problem is they change it every couple of years so people get confused but apart from that I think it's good mostly ?

We don’t get any bins is the first thing, so storing 3 black bags over 3 weeks is not ideal. It’s the amount of bags and caddy’s we have to store, also the bags are useless and blow away in the slightest wind.

We have:
Food caddy
Glass Caddy
Green waste bag (if you pay extra)
Blue bag for plastic
Orange bag for Cardboard
White bag for Paper
Another bag for batteries
Store 3 black bags

So that’s 7 bags/caddies to store plus 3 black bags
If you have children you have another caddy for nappies.

The storeage bags are not fit for purpose.

[cathays blueboy]

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A large proportion of residents in Cardiff won't have lawns

People living in exclusive areas complaining that it costs them 30 quid a year to have their grass cuttings taken away is laughable really

Wouldn't the cost of council tax be reflected for people in "exclusive" areas ?

[jon1959]

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Wouldn't the cost of council tax be reflected for people in "exclusive" areas ?

The bands clearly mean that people in bigger homes and/or more 'exclusive areas' pay more - but Council Tax is regressive and those in lower value homes, in poorer areas with greater state or council needs pay proportionately much more than the affluent.

The Guardian did a good summary of Council debt (40% reduction in real terms central government support to Councils from 2010 to 2020) which is hitting councils of all colours like never before. It also included this snippet:

The issue is exacerbated by the fact that worse-off areas typically have greater needs for council provision despite their smaller tax base. Richard (Partington) points to an example of how that plays out from the Northern Powerhouse Partnership: a house in Hartlepool worth £150,000 pays over £200 a year more in council tax than someone in Westminster in a property worth £8m.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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A large proportion of residents in Cardiff won't have lawns

People living in exclusive areas complaining that it costs them 30 quid a year to have their grass cuttings taken away is laughable really

What when you pay £285pm council tax, and the only thing I get for it is bins collected every six months when they are not on strike?

Charge for everything else then and make free council tax.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Wouldn't the cost of council tax be reflected for people in "exclusive" areas ?

Of course it is!

[North Cardiff Blue]

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The bands clearly mean that people in bigger homes and/or more 'exclusive areas' pay more - but Council Tax is regressive and those in lower value homes, in poorer areas with greater state or council needs pay proportionately much more than the affluent.

The Guardian did a good summary of Council debt (40% reduction in real terms central government support to Councils from 2010 to 2020) which is hitting councils of all colours like never before. It also included this snippet:

The issue is exacerbated by the fact that worse-off areas typically have greater needs for council provision despite their smaller tax base. Richard (Partington) points to an example of how that plays out from the Northern Powerhouse Partnership: a house in Hartlepool worth £150,000 pays over £200 a year more in council tax than someone in Westminster in a property worth £8m.

Stupid system, why should a little old couple (not me) on their own on state pension who saved all there life to live in a big house (with a lawn wow rich bustards) £1 mill in ABC pay way more than a family of ten with all grown-up kids all working and earning big bucks in XYZ £150K house all using all the local services?


Tax on what you earn is fair enough but on what house you own is nonsense.

[jon1959]

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Stupid system, why should a little old couple (not me) on their own on state pension who saved all there life to live in a big house £1 mill in ABC pay way more than a family of ten with all grown-up kids all working and earning big bucks in XYZ £150K house all using all the local services?

That's right - the real victims here are the Westminster asset millionaires not the residents of a massively overcrowded terrace house in Hartlepool.

Thanks for setting me right.

(By the way, I am not defending the Council Tax system at all. Income tax much fairer - combined with a deferred tax on non income wealth for those who are asset rich but cash poor).

[North Cardiff Blue]

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That's right - the real victims here are the Westminster asset millionaires not the residents of a massively overcrowded terrace house in Hartlepool.

Thanks for setting me right.

(By the way, I am not defending the Council Tax system at all. Income tax much fairer - combined with a deferred tax on non income wealth for those who are asset rich but cash poor).

I wasn't talking about geographical differences, that will be down to labour councils wasting more money, I'm talking about people in Cardiff, all with a useless labour council.

But we agree on the stupid system we have in place.

[cathays blueboy]

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Of course it is!

Exactly so shouldn't be charged for collecting garden waste!!