Cardiff - Changes to your recycling

[Rjk]

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Thats what happens the leader eats the most and the others in the group then get some when he lets them, then if they find another group near their food they kick the shit out of them, we are all animals.

there's a big difference between eating the most and hoarding more food than you could ever hope to eat in several lifetimes.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.

You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

[Rjk]

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It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.

Historically, when inequality reaches a certain level usually something dramatic happens, an uprising, a revolution. It has happened many times before and we are close to that kind of inequality today.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

No I do care, but there is nothing very much I can do about it other than pay my taxes and hope some get's redirected their way.

What are you doing about it?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Historically, when inequality reaches a certain level usually something dramatic happens, an uprising, a revolution. It has happened many times before and we are close to that kind of inequality today.

Yes that's factual, I think constant protests are the start of something different, will politicians and governments change or take notice time will tell?

They used to say we need a good war.

[Rjk]

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She's the top (or 2nd depending where you read) tax payer in the UK. Yet she's only 16th on the rich list according to this

https://www.independent.co.uk/money/rich-list-2023-who-are-the-wealthiest-people-in-the-uk-b2341903.html

Shouldn't the wealthiest be paying most tax?

I've often thought that like food hygiene ratings that businesses have to display on their premises, companies should also have to display a score based on how much of their tax they are paying in this country.
Funnel it all through some offshore tax haven - its not illegal but consumers should be able to see clearly that's what you're doing so they can make a choice.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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there's a big difference between eating the most and hoarding more food than you could ever hope to eat in several lifetimes.

Quite.

I have no idea what the average wage is, but say someone earns £20k in a year. Forget about tax, NI for the moment.

Someone earning £1m in a year makes 50 times that.

Someone earning £1b in a year makes 50,000 times that.

According to Oxfam, since 2020, billionnaires are $3.3trillion better off. That's more than the UK's GDP. Corporations pay the tax they see fit as they won't be challenged. Some say we shouldn't challenge them as they provide jobs and taxation, but I disagree. Any company that makes the huge profits these corporations make should pay the correct levels of tax, not tell governments what they want to pay.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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No I do care, but there is nothing very much I can do about it other than pay my taxes and hope some get's redirected their way.

What are you doing about it?

Well, you care enough not to be even vocal about it.

[splott parker]

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Denise Coates paid half a billion pounds in income tax. Her company employs 7000 people, most of whom pay tax & NI. Her businesses pay hundreds of millions in corporation tax. Tell her she'll 'hardly miss' another £50 million and she could well tell the govt. where to go and move to Guernsey etc.

Are a proportion of that 7000 claiming ‘top up’ benefits due to low wages? Benefits that come out of the public purse.

[splott parker]

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Yes that's factual, I think constant protests are the start of something different, will politicians and governments change or take notice time will tell?

They used to say we need a good war.

The last ‘civil war’ in this country chucked generations on the scrap heap. No sustainable, long term, decent employment to replace lost jobs resulting in many having to rely on hand outs & benefits to exist ad infinitum. Her war against the ‘enemy within’ is still reverberating to this day, while the rich get richer.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Well, you care enough not to be even vocal about it.

Yes I've started a post on the daft waste of money on this stupid system, if they hadn't paid for all the stupid Ikea bags and special lorries they could have spent in on the people in the community that need it most, while you are happy for Drippy and the CC to waste money and never challenge them.

[BLUETIT]

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Llanishen
Green bag collection cancelled at 5.00pm today !!!!!

Streets full of them, gulls, crows and foxes will have a field day.

(They can smell the cans and paper that tossers don’t wash clean)

Now supposedly Monday collection

[Dembe]

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You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

You love to gaslight people don't you!!

Here you are once again saying someone doesn't care, you were doing this to me until you decided to ignore me.

Oh and, without order Eric we descend into chaos. Humans work better within a hierarchy.

[bobh]

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This thread seems to have gone a tad off-topic, hasn't it?!

Back to collections -

Today was collection day - except it isn't!
As I suspected, all the new recycling has been postponed until tomorrow (at least)
I have heard unconfirmed news that the council doesn't yet have enough of the new lorries that keep the different materials separate - so in some cases, your carefully separated recycling wase is being dumped into old lorries so it is mixed up again!

Well, the glass caddy was emptied early this morning, but the red and blue bags for plastic and paper is still sitting there.
Checking the app, as I suspected, they've postponed again! Until tomorrow...maybe.

Pissup in a brewery comes to mind.