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  • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
    Yeah, they changed formation. And as the home team they have to pile the pressure on in the final 25 minutes or so when they're losing. Colwill is definitely an 'Out' he's supposed to be, that's his job. he's allowed more freedom than any pf our midfield players, he's allowed to drop in, move across the line in search for the ball, He's got to do that because he's supposed to be our creative player in midfield. He was tired as well, he covers some ground under bulut.
    Not that I get to see every game so others know better but from the games I’ve seen today of him he seemed more of a midfielder today rather than a 10. He wasn’t waiting for the ball, he was more involved and put in the hard graft and generally used the ball well in the right areas.

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    • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

      Colwill very involved today, practically demanding the ball on times in the first half. He has the ability to be such a threat, seemed to have been given a bit more freedom by Bulut today, or did he take it upon himself to get more involved?

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      • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
        No it isnt.
        Good insight

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        • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

          Colwill is definitely rounding out his game under Bulut, it’s good to see. Final product didn’t quite work out for him, but otherwise thought he had an excellent game.

          Turnbull ran his arse off when he came on but had some dodgy touches, ironically the complete opposite of what the Celtic fans were saying.

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          • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

            Originally posted by splott parker View Post
            Colwill very involved today, practically demanding the ball on times in the first half. He has the ability to be such a threat, seemed to have been given a bit more freedom by Bulut today, or did he take it upon himself to get more involved?
            The one thing that is good about Colwill getting regular playing time is that we can now see what he's about, his attributes and his weaknesses. We can make a judgement on him.

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            • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
              Yeah, they changed formation. And as the home team they have to pile the pressure on in the final 25 minutes or so when they're losing. Colwill is definitely an 'Out' he's supposed to be, that's his job. he's allowed more freedom than any pf our midfield players, he's allowed to drop in, move across the line in search for the ball, He's got to do that because he's supposed to be our creative player in midfield. He was tired as well, he covers some ground under bulut.
              I love the fact that Colwill is being seen as an important part of our team. This must have a lot to do with Bulut.

              With the new players, and Ramsey, how far can he go? He's been battling in a poor squad. The current one might not be so poor.

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              • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                Originally posted by Joe Gillis View Post
                Etete looks like a parks player, he's stealing a living here
                He disappoints every time I see him :-(

                And yet the blokes on VFTN podcast rate him, which is just bizarre…..

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                • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                  Originally posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
                  I suppose that's why teams retain an interest in Bowler. I thought he'd been pretty useless up to that point and almost gave it away with his first touch leading to the goal. But there we are. Nice work if you can get it.
                  He was dreadful and then scored a banger from nowhere.

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                  • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                    Originally posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
                    He was dreadful and then scored a banger from nowhere.
                    A simple finish according to the Watford commentators

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                    • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                      Originally posted by rich munn View Post
                      I love the fact that Colwill is being seen as an important part of our team. This must have a lot to do with Bulut.

                      With the new players, and Ramsey, how far can he go? He's been battling in a poor squad. The current one might not be so poor.

                      Bulut has increased his work load, that's for sure. Colwill does have obvious talent, but i'm not completely convinced just yet. He's a better player in my opinion when he doesn't have time to think. He also needs to produce a bit more in the final third when the opportunity arises. He has a stride but no turn of pace, something that causes him problems from time to time. He's still developing, and i do think that for him to improve and become even better he's going to have to change his game a bit. He makes plenty of runs, and sometimes i don't think it suits his style. Standing still and just moving a few yards would be better for him in my opinion, he's not a a player that should or can play a hectic style of football. That's on bulut though.

                      He's coming on though. The next 18 months will define him as a player and where his future lies. Good luck to him.

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                      • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                        Originally posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
                        He was dreadful and then scored a banger from nowhere.
                        Before his goal I was thinking Etete and Bowler needed to get the hook at half-time.

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                        • Re: WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                          Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                          Bulut has increased his work load, that's for sure. Colwill does have obvious talent, but i'm not completely convinced just yet. He's a better player in my opinion when he doesn't have time to think. He also needs to produce a bit more in the final third when the opportunity arises. He has a stride but no turn of pace, something that causes him problems from time to time. He's still developing, and i do think that for him to improve and become even better he's going to have to change his game a bit. He makes plenty of runs, and sometimes i don't think it suits his style. Standing still and just moving a few yards would be better for him in my opinion, he's not a a player that should or can play a hectic style of football. That's on bulut though.

                          He's coming on though. The next 18 months will define him as a player and where his future lies. Good luck to him.
                          He had a good game today and looked like he was enjoying himself. I wanted him to take that free kick that Ng put wide as I think his confidence was up and a goal would have really helped him.

                          Objectively, he was part of a pretty feeble attacking performance that lacked cohesion but hopefully he can get a run of games and build on today's showing.

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                          • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                            Originally posted by JumpersforGoalposts View Post
                            Before his goal I was thinking Etete and Bowler needed to get the hook at half-time.
                            Everyone was!

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                            • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                              Originally posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
                              Everyone was!
                              Bowler is an odd one, before his goal he was involved but it wasn’t quite clicking, poor passes, touches but at the same time he was getting involved down that side. A confident Bowler could be huge.

                              I do feel like we have worked a lot on our shape, we looked brighter until they made a triple sub. I think we sat back to much but who doesn’t at 1-0.

                              But if that was us playing like Watford everyone would say we could be there all night and not score. Alnick had a few camera saves but nothing you wouldn’t expect him to save.

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                              • Re: FT: WATFORD 0 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

                                Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
                                Bowler is an odd one, before his goal he was involved but it wasn’t quite clicking, poor passes, touches but at the same time he was getting involved down that side. A confident Bowler could be huge.

                                I do feel like we have worked a lot on our shape, we looked brighter until they made a triple sub. I think we sat back to much but who doesn’t at 1-0.

                                But if that was us playing like Watford everyone would say we could be there all night and not score. Alnick had a few camera saves but nothing you wouldn’t expect him to save.
                                True but, as someone else said on here, prior to Bowler scoring I’d have happily subbed all three of our attacking players. The first half was poor but we looked decent for the first 15 mins of the second half.

                                Resolute defending and some luck meant we got away with it but the last half hour was very nervy and Watford had easily the better of the first half.

                                It wasn’t convincingly at all to me but I’ll take the win.

                                (I thought that the young left back from Man City looked all over the place when he came on and Watford clearly targeted JC in the first half)

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