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  • #31
    Re: Live Bristol riots

    Originally posted by delmbox View Post
    Harry Paget's right
    No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
    Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
    I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.

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    • #32
      Re: Live Bristol riots

      Originally posted by stan butler View Post
      No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
      So, just to be clear, you have an in depth knowledge of every protest, and the case isn't that you've seen this and maybe one or two others that you don't like the aims of (gonna take a wild punt at...ooooh...maybe Extinction Rebellion and BLM) and now you're making sweeping angry generalisations as is fairly common with men of a certain vintage

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      • #33
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        Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.

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        • #34
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          When i see footage like that knob battering the police van windscreen, and the ones setting it on fire, i’d love to see the cops steam in and smash the ****ers.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by 198bore View Post
            Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.
            But we are in the middle of a bloody pandemic man. People that protest have already been proven to be unable to social distance or wear masks and not to give a hoot about their own or other peoples safety. I would support the Government in locking people in their houses to stop them going out or prison if they gather unlawfully, if it meant getting rid of the virus and ending lockdown.

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            • #36
              Re: Live Bristol riots

              Originally posted by 198bore View Post
              Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.
              The right to peacefully protest, and the right to destroy public property and intentionally hospitalise police whilst protesting, are 2 different things.

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                The right to peacefully protest, and the right to destroy public property and intentionally hospitalise police whilst protesting, are 2 different things.
                Obviously, but the right to peacefully protest is being attacked.

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                • #38
                  Re: Live Bristol riots

                  Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                  No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
                  Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
                  I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.
                  You have to have a pretty loose understanding of history to think like this.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Live Bristol riots

                    Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
                    Always the same. Scruffy, ignorant types that hate people protesting because they think its cool. Shame the police can't use rubber bullets on them and anyone caught get any benefits or pensions they claim stopped.
                    Spot on.

                    This minority in Bristol acting like this will be used by the media to make the short sighted believe in the new bill.

                    It’s depressing how predictable the response on here is.

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                    • #40
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                      Originally posted by Toadstool View Post
                      Interesting how the police are happy to release cctv for this, but that guy that died in custody in Cardiff they won't release the cctc as it "might prejudice enquiries"
                      Very fair point

                      I note that several officers have been cautioned regarding that mans death . Over what I don't know .

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                      • #41
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                        The wurzels have always been revolting

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                          Obviously, but the right to peacefully protest is being attacked.
                          It’s being attacked, because of incidents like yesterday. These protests are the same as the football hooliganism. Probably 95% of participants in these protests, want to do it peacefully, whilst the other 5% want to cause chaos and anarchy.
                          95% of City fans in the 70’s and 80’s just wanted to go to games to support the City, but the 5% that made up the soul crew, wanted the aggro.
                          It’s the minorities, that always get their way, and the majorities get tarred with the same brush.

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                          • #43
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                            Imo, in a protest you'll always have those there because they want to be part of an event, those there because they're angry and want to physically express that regardless of their opinion on protest subject and those there who really believe in the cause and want to show that peacefully or otherwise.

                            I found in the reports this morning that Avon and Somerset Police Chief Constable was claiming there were 400-500 criminals in the protest, but does anyone buy that it was such a high number?

                            Two officers were injured and treated in hospital, with one suffering a punctured lung and broken ribs, and the other a fractured arm. Both have since been discharged. Twelve police vehicles were also damaged, with two set on fire. It is understood the police operation cost around £1m. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-56461796
                            If there were 400-500 criminals wouldn't they do much more damage than that? Or our criminals some of the worst idlers in the world too.

                            Regarding the protest itself, I have sympathy with those protesting what appears to be part of creeping (mostly right wing) authoritarianism in the UK and the police who had to deal with the violent group. Not an either or situation.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Live Bristol riots

                              Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                              No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
                              Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
                              I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.
                              Those scruffy suffragettes. Scum of the earth.

                              At least Farage had the decency to wear his Sunday best when patrolling Dover.

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                              • #45
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                                Just to recap where we are:

                                - 5 year fixed term parliament unless the governing party decides they want an election

                                - Police(/politicians) given the power to severely limit and even criminalise non-violent protest if they wish to

                                - No mechanism to hold politicians to account for blatant lies or failure to deliver on policy pledges.

                                If this sounds good to you then I would urge you to engage your brain and stop thinking about protests as 'something the other team does'.

                                Thankfully the press can still say whatever the handful of billionaires who own them want them to say.

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