Having the stick/dap in school

[splott parker]

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Might be a different Frank Callus.
Just looked him up on LinkedIn and it shows his first teaching job was in Lliswerry from 79-85

Didn’t think it was our resident monster.

[splott parker]

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Frank Callus is still alive i believe, according to my mother who is involved with the (catholic church) Remember Mr John? or Jogo as we called him, he was a bit of a twat.

Joggo died fairly recently, was John Williams still there when you were there? Great teacher, drank in The Royal Oak, a musician in St Alban’s band, used to get us in The City with a group complimentary ticket in the late 60s, anyway, he passed away last week. Callus won’t die, looked like he reincarnated at Lliswerry School to continue his reign of terror

[Wash DC Blue]

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Didn’t think it was our resident monster.

Probably his Son

[Stanmore Bluebird]

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I remember all the boys in our class had the cane after our form teacher ran out of the class crying. Someone chalked on the blackboard `Miss Owen is a Lesbian' Turns out it was one of the girls.

I went to Whitchurch Grammar where the cane was used very sparingly and you had to do something incredibly wrong to receive it.
4 or 5 boys in my class - if we had had a mass beating- were effeminate, non sporting and so weak nobody ever bullied them. I don’t think these poor guys could have handled corporal punishment without lots of crying, begging to be let off, etc.

Out of interest, what was the errant girl’s punishment in the end? Also, how did her classmates treat her from then on? Was there some sort of revenge against her?

A mass incorrect caning in my school I think would have had repercussions against the school/teachers by parents even in the 1960s. Most pupils were there to learn and get into university; not to misbehave. You only had to see the other parents at parents’ meetings to understand what they were like. Their precious studious kids being caned would generally not have gone down well!

[Tuerto]

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Joggo died fairly recently, was John Williams still there when you were there? Great teacher, drank in The Royal Oak, a musician in St Alban’s band, used to get us in The City with a group complimentary ticket in the late 60s, anyway, he passed away last week. Callus won’t die, looked like he reincarnated at Lliswerry School to continue his reign of terror

No Mr williams. Mr James-Had an accident in his army years, taught Technical Drawing. Mr Wooding-Geography-Dr Shears-Biology-Mr Tudor-Chemistry-Les Gauntlett-PE Mike German-Music-Miss Shamah? Art or some other shit-Mr Mark(Harpo)

[splott parker]

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Probably his Son

He had twin sons who’d be 66 now, I know that because they’d have been in my year had they gone to Lady Mary, of course he swung it for them to go elsewhere, no doubt for fear of indirect retribution being taken out on them on the ash or the yard.

[splott parker]

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No Mr williams. Mr James-Had an accident in his army years, taught Technical Drawing. Mr Wooding-Geography-Dr Shears-Biology-Mr Tudor-Chemistry-Les Gauntlett-PE Mike German-Music-Miss Shamah? Art or some other shit-Mr Mark(Harpo)

Yes, Mr James was there in my time as was Les sssss Tudor, Mike German also. Brian Mark was head but was like the invisible man, hardly ever seen.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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Dinner ladies were a bit nasty, so i'm with you on that one. Usually a pupils mum or Auntie, preferential treatment when the desert was dished out.

They weren't particularly nasty but two of them in my school were nicknamed Bulldog and Rambo.

They looked like they came off the set of Prisoner Cell Block H.

[delmbox]

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That teacher would get 12 months behind bars at least in our current insane society

Yes, the society which doesn't allow an adult to beat a kid with a stick for getting 75% on a geography test is the insane one.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I got , together with 4 others , the metre long wooden measuring stick , across the open hand for being the organisers of a scrap between two kids who hated each other .

We deserved punishment of course but that sort of thing could have broken fingers or knuckles. It was barbaric and only made me more of a git in school .

No deterrent whatsoever

I was back in trouble within a few weeks

Schools should have counsellors to educate youngsters as to the effects of their behaviour and hopefully that's the case now

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Having the stick/dap in school

I got , together with 4 others , the metre long wooden measuring stick , across the open hand for being the organisers of a scrap between two kids who hated each other .

We deserved punishment of course but that sort of thing could have broken fingers or knuckles. It was barbaric and only made me more of a git in school .

No deterrent whatsoever

I was back in trouble within a few weeks

Schools should have counsellors to educate youngsters as to the effects of their behaviour and hopefully that's the case now

Thankfully behavioural issues are now seen more in terms of educating those rather than just punishment.

[splott parker]

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Yes, the society which doesn't allow an adult to beat a kid with a stick for getting 75% on a geography test is the insane one.

The kids who were trouble makers in school rather than my lot, who even though we got caned a fair bit were just occasionally naughty boys, no more, certainly didn’t change their ways. The beatings they had which were a bit more extreme than the stick or the dap, sometimes, didn’t make them see the light, in fact it most probably made them worse. Teachers flying off the handle didn’t help at all, sensible, considerate handling, which some teachers displayed gained them a lot more respect resulting in better pupil behaviour.

[Wash DC Blue]

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He had twin sons who’d be 66 now, I know that because they’d have been in my year had they gone to Lady Mary, of course he swung it for them to go elsewhere, no doubt for fear of indirect retribution being taken out on them on the ash or the yard.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/frank-callus-a201138

[jimmyscoular]

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We had a sadistic load of Brothers (failed priests), pretending to be teachers in St Illtyds.

One, Brother Luke, would walk up and down between the desks and if you were doing a sum wrong, would lash the back of your hand with a leather strap.

Surely not the elderly Brother Luke of the late '60s and into the '70s. He was kind, gentle and meek to a fault, forever pottering around his greenhouse. Brother Alexander was the sadist. Very handy (and skilled) with the cane.

[jimmyscoular]

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I attended St. Cadoc's primary school in the 1960s when the headmaster was Mr. Buckley. He had a reputation among us kids for wielding a bamboo cane with a rusty nail through the end, the better to draw blood. I was sent to his office for 'crossing the white line' in the playground once too often. I stood outside his office trembling for about 20 minutes, the mythical rusty nail growing larger and larger in my imagination. Finally, he showed up. 'Why are you here?' he asked. 'I stepped outside the white line,' I said.

Looks at me for an interminable five seconds.

'Get back to your classroom,' he said.

That is the definition of relief.