Time is Up

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Time is Up

Have you forgotten the start of the season already, when we were 6th in the table having played most of the decent teams?

Sorry, I was replying to your comment about how Bulut has shown he can get the team playing as they were at the start. They haven't for 4 months.

[Tuerto]

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He wasn't great but looks like a Champions' League winner in comparison with our current forward line up. I thought Meite would have done more.

Meite doesn't look right to me, like he's holding back a bit. He's a bit shit as well, doesn't really help things.....

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The point?

Well this season is done now. We aren't going up or down. Its as close to certain as you can get in football we know which division we are in next season. So the only thing now is to look at next season.

To counter that what's the point of him staying if he won't be here next season? For what? To consolidate 14th? If the club want to back him then fair enough get a contract sorted for next season (so we can sack him in october then) but if not then no point him staying a day longer really.

The only point in sacking bulut is if we can get a better manager in

He's only just brought in some new faces

If we sack him and bring in a new manager do you think its worth doing all this again in say next December when he's got the same sort of return that bulut has ?

[Wozza16]

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This thread has summed up how football fans have changed for the worse, everyone crying for long term stability and growth but ready to sack everyone at the sign of regression.

Build for the future/long term blah blah.... if you progress in a perfectly linear way otherwise get out.

Fact of the matter is 75%+ of City fans were seriously worried about relegation this season.

The fact that we've been comfortably clear of the bottom 3 all year is signs of a good season, am I disappointed how we've fallen away? Yes of course but it shows the squad had limited depth and once 20-30 games in standards dropped, something we all knew.

[Moodybluebird]

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The only point in sacking bulut is if we can get a better manager in

He's only just brought in some new faces

If we sack him and bring in a new manager do you think its worth doing all this again in say next December when he's got the same sort of return that bulut has ?

Sludge, if you were in charge of the purse strings, would you feel comfortable about re-employing this guy based on the team's performances since October ?

[MacAdder]

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This thread has summed up how football fans have changed for the worse, everyone crying for long term stability and growth but ready to sack everyone at the sign of regression.

Build for the future/long term blah blah.... if you progress in a perfectly linear way otherwise get out.

Fact of the matter is 75%+ of City fans were seriously worried about relegation this season.

The fact that we've been comfortably clear of the bottom 3 all year is signs of a good season, am I disappointed how we've fallen away? Yes of course but it shows the squad had limited depth and once 20-30 games in standards dropped, something we all knew.

[Moodybluebird]

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This thread has summed up how football fans have changed for the worse, everyone crying for long term stability and growth but ready to sack everyone at the sign of regression.

Build for the future/long term blah blah.... if you progress in a perfectly linear way otherwise get out.

Fact of the matter is 75%+ of City fans were seriously worried about relegation this season.

The fact that we've been comfortably clear of the bottom 3 all year is signs of a good season, am I disappointed how we've fallen away? Yes of course but it shows the squad had limited depth and once 20-30 games in standards dropped, something we all knew.

I think you're being very generous or very naive to say that standards have dropped 20-30 games in. Our last decent performance was our 14th game of the season against Bristol City, which means we've played 17 league games since and played abysmally in nearly all of them. By common consent we've been fortunate to pick up a few wins along the way, which has kept us out of trouble.

How can you build for the future if you put blind faith in a manager that has sucked nearly all the positivity from the fans in just a few months ?

[NinianOpinion1927]

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I'm worried about relegation, we're still not safe and we've been awful for months. Bulut isn't the man to take us forward, he's lost it and run out of ideas

[Father Dougal]

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The only point in sacking bulut is if we can get a better manager in

He's only just brought in some new faces

If we sack him and bring in a new manager do you think its worth doing all this again in say next December when he's got the same sort of return that bulut has ?

If the football is as consistently shite and the players look like they are getting much worse then yes.

However the point is if he isn't going to be here next season (and remember currently he isn't going to be) then why waste time now?

Even though I'm not bothered either way if the club do give him an extra 2 years tomorrow I'd say fair play at least its a sign of what they think and we can put all this to bed as he's staying at least into next season and that's that.

However current situation is untenable much longer. If he's going then just go now. This season is done. However if he is staying then all get it done and move on.

[Wozza16]

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I think you're being very generous or very naive to say that standards have dropped 20-30 games in. Our last decent performance was our 14th game of the season against Bristol City, which means we've played 17 league games since and played abysmally in nearly all of them. By common consent we've been fortunate to pick up a few wins along the way, which has kept us out of trouble.

How can you build for the future if you put blind faith in a manager that has sucked nearly all the positivity from the fans in just a few months ?

Maybe generous but definitely not naive. In the 5 games after we played Bristol, 3 of the 5 are in the top 6 and we still got 4 points from 5 games. The Championship is a relentless league and that's why the relegated sides have romped home this year because they have incredible squads, not just a good 11.

How is it blind faith after 7 months? Manager's seem to suck all positivity out of fans every season, no matter who it is. It starts to come down to are we just an overly negative fanbase? The club has been under restraints that nearly no other club has had in the UK over the past 1-2 years in not being able to pay for players while the top 6/8 clubs can spend £10s of millions. It's not Buluts fault the club has been in the mire for a few years now.

[goats]

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Aye, but we're 11 points better off than last season :facepalm:

Is that a benchmark? Last season was our worst for 20 years and we should have gone down really. He makes odd subs and frequently starts with the wrong team, why not start with Ramsey last night? Chasing the game from the off…..

[bluesp]

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This thread has summed up how football fans have changed for the worse, everyone crying for long term stability and growth but ready to sack everyone at the sign of regression.

Build for the future/long term blah blah.... if you progress in a perfectly linear way otherwise get out.

Fact of the matter is 75%+ of City fans were seriously worried about relegation this season.

The fact that we've been comfortably clear of the bottom 3 all year is signs of a good season, am I disappointed how we've fallen away? Yes of course but it shows the squad had limited depth and once 20-30 games in standards dropped, something we all knew.

Absolutely spot on!

[TheBirchgrovePub]

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No one will ever succeed under this ownership. Bulut far from inspiring and wouldn’t be sorry to see him go but will be the same next manager as well.

The January window was rubbish. Short term signings order of the day once again

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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There's a valid argument that the players need a few games to bed in, gel together, and it's a virtually new team out there at times, but I'd accept that premise were I to see the occasional flash of pace, players inter-changing a few quick passes, a great shot etc., but individually they all - bar a few exceptions - look bang average footballers. Admittedly he did bring in a few turkeys, but Morison signed :

Philogene
Alnwick
Collins
Tanner
Kipre
O'Dowda
Robinson

Puts Bulut's signings in perspective..

[bluemoon]

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my thread was removed...

sadly ive moved also... firmly into the get the **** out of my club group

**** off