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  • #46
    Re: Which game still hurts the most

    Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Couldn't give a shit what he did at Southampton, same as I couldn't care less what Malky or Warnock has done elsewhere. It's my opinion that Malky won promotion with a poorer squad than Jones had in his last few seasons as our manager, so I rate him as a better manager of us than Jones. I also reckon that our promotion under Warnock was one of the best managerial successes at our club in many a year. Jones's CV with us will always be blighted by failure to win promotion.
    You sound like you’d be happy if we played in red with Mick McCarthy managing us as long as we got promoted.

    I can’t remember all of the starting XI from Malky’s or Warnock’s team but I can comfortably rattle off Dave Jones’s entire 1st choice team including bench players

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    • #47
      Re: Which game still hurts the most

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      He had a big war chest in wages paid to quality players to do that though

      It was well known in football that we were shelling out money beyond our means to get promoted

      It certainly wasn't just his managerial qualities that kept us in the mix
      We might have been spending beyond our means but that was Ridsdales department.

      Jones signed some superb players for peanuts.it wasn’t all about the big names.

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      • #48
        Re: Which game still hurts the most

        Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
        We might have been spending beyond our means but that was Ridsdales department.

        Jones signed some superb players for peanuts.it wasn’t all about the big names.
        I am not disagreeing but we were not paying out transfer fees it was big wages

        He also signed some duds though .....Kevin Campbell was handsomely paid but was totally finished

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        • #49
          Re: Which game still hurts the most

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          I am not disagreeing but we were not paying out transfer fees it was big wages

          He also signed some duds though .....Kevin Campbell was handsomely paid but was totally finished
          We werent paying out big wages to the likes of Whitts, Chlopra and the Scottish lads when he first signed them. Not every signing was a Campbell, JFH or Fowler.

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          • #50
            Re: Which game still hurts the most

            Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
            We werent paying out big wages to the likes of Whitts, Chlopra and the Scottish lads when he first signed them. Not every signing was a Campbell, JFH or Fowler.
            Or Sinclair !

            I don't remember him doing anything

            Did he score any goals ?

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            • #51
              Re: Which game still hurts the most

              Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
              He was a good manager and helped elevate this club to a club with premier league ambitions.
              I agree with you. It's just a massive shame he never won promotion as I reckon we'd have had our best chance at staying there with him. He shoulders some of that blame.

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              • #52
                Re: Which game still hurts the most

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                I am not disagreeing but we were not paying out transfer fees it was big wages

                He also signed some duds though .....Kevin Campbell was handsomely paid but was totally finished
                I've heard Jones say that they signed the likes of Hasselbaink and Fowler as a way of raising the profile of the club. Whether that happened or not, I have no idea, but to fans they were, by and large, a waste of wages.

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                • #53
                  Re: Which game still hurts the most

                  Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                  We werent paying out big wages to the likes of Whitts, Chlopra and the Scottish lads when he first signed them. Not every signing was a Campbell, JFH or Fowler.
                  For me, Jones was a good manager. He established us as a team with real aspirations to go up. He was pivotal in our progress.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Which game still hurts the most

                    Originally posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
                    You sound like you’d be happy if we played in red with Mick McCarthy managing us as long as we got promoted.

                    I can’t remember all of the starting XI from Malky’s or Warnock’s team but I can comfortably rattle off Dave Jones’s entire 1st choice team including bench players
                    If you read any of my posts you'd spot that I'd love a bit of entertainment from our current side. However, if there is a choice, particularly at the crucial end of the season in a promotion race, would you rather entertainment and miss out or the turgid stuff we sometimes saw from both Malky and Warnock's promotion winners and get promotion, you'd take promotion every time.

                    Agreed about the names Jones had at the time, though. Me and a mate were trying to remember our squads from some seasons around that time and we remembered far more about Jones' players than anyone else.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Which game still hurts the most

                      Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                      For me, Jones was a good manager. He established us as a team with real aspirations to go up. He was pivotal in our progress.
                      I'd go further and say he helped create a side that should have been promoted.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Which game still hurts the most

                        Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                        I've heard Jones say that they signed the likes of Hasselbaink and Fowler as a way of raising the profile of the club. Whether that happened or not, I have no idea, but to fans they were, by and large, a waste of wages.
                        Apparently he signed Kevin Campbell for his dressing room prescence

                        He certainly wasn't signed for his presence on the pitch

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                        • #57
                          Re: Which game still hurts the most

                          We were much better on the eye under Jones.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Which game still hurts the most

                            Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                            I'd go further and say he helped create a side that should have been promoted.
                            If people want to blame bulut for the current state of affairs then Jones must be blamed for failing to get us promoted

                            He definitely had the tools

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                            • #59
                              Re: Which game still hurts the most

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              Apparently he signed Kevin Campbell for his dressing room prescence

                              He certainly wasn't signed for his presence on the pitch
                              Wasn't it Steven Thompson who used to play his guitar in the dressing room?

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                              • #60
                                Re: Which game still hurts the most

                                Luton relegating us in 82
                                Of our Wembley appearances
                                I thought Blackpool deserved to win so the Liverpool league cup final hurts the most because we won that final twice in my book when Kenny Miller missed the sitter and 2 up in the pens.
                                I could have lived off that win forever.

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