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    Profitability and Sustainability - the January 2024 transfer window

    Dear Member

    You will recall that, in my last communication to you after the meeting called by Mehmet Dalman prior to the Preston game. I undertook to update you on the current situation regarding Profitability and Sustainability (formerly known as FFP). I have now been able to clarify some issues so here is my summary of the current situation and its impact on the January Transfer Window.

    There has been quite a lot of criticism on social media about the club only making player signings very late in the transfer window and missing out on “first choice signings” so I thought that this brief explanatory note might be helpful.

    Since March 2022 the monitoring of club finances in the EFL has been carried out by a separate independent panel of qualified accountants called the Club Financial Reporting Unit. It is they who decide whether EFL clubs are in an adequate financial position to have transfers authorised and to what extent. Their rules have become increasingly strict and their monitoring checks far more frequent recently.

    The basic rules have not changed much. EPL and EFL clubs are monitored on the basis of the losses they incur. If losses are below £5m on average over a rolling three year period then no further checks are made. Greater losses are allowed if the difference is made up by new cash introduced and funding guarantees by club owners so that the average is increased to £35m in the EPL and £13m in the EFL. In Cardiff City`s case the “top up” has been made by new cash introduced by Vincent Tan by way of paid for new share issues .

    There was a further restriction introduced in June 2023 in that if a club is even a few days late in paying its HMRC debt then this has to be reported as a Default Event and the EFL can introduce an immediate transfer embargo until the matter is sorted.

    The impact in January was that the CFRU only gave clearance to a number of clubs very late in the transfer window. As a consequence, there were more Championship club transfers in in the last two days of the transfer window than in the whole of the rest of the full month.

    Keith Morgan

    Chair

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    Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

    Interesting to see the degree of scrutiny that Clubs are now subject to. Default on a payment to HMRC then an embargo immediately applies. The powers that be do not appear to be messing about.

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    • #3
      Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

      Interesting.

      Despite the increased and late scrutiny, and the last minute clearance to spend, if Bulut, Dalman etc are to be believed we had enough headroom on the last day to bring Moore in as well (if he hadn't decided on the stardust option of Ipswich).

      There are some Championship clubs out there who seem to be sailing closer to the wind than us. I have read a few reports from football finance experts who claim Hull are gambling on promotion this season. They have brought in revenue from player sales, but if what I read was right they will have to have a fire sale if they don't go up. Stoke, Blackburn and others seem to be on the edge too.

      Any clubs in their position that trigger points deductions in the next few months could give QPR or Wednesday a lifeline.

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      • #4
        Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

        Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
        Interesting.

        Despite the increased and late scrutiny, and the last minute clearance to spend, if Bulut, Dalman etc are to be believed we had enough headroom on the last day to bring Moore in as well (if he hadn't decided on the stardust option of Ipswich).

        There are some Championship clubs out there who seem to be sailing closer to the wind than us. I have read a few reports from football finance experts who claim Hull are gambling on promotion this season. They have brought in revenue from player sales, but if what I read was right they will have to have a fire sale if they don't go up. Stoke, Blackburn and others seem to be on the edge too.

        Any clubs in their position that trigger points deductions in the next few months could give QPR or Wednesday a lifeline.
        The way things are going, the 3 teams with the worst playing record finishing in the bottom 3 will be a thing of the past.

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        • #5
          Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

          Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
          The way things are going, the 3 teams with the worst playing record finishing in the bottom 3 will be a thing of the past.
          That is a risk I think. The way the EFL are clamping down on club finances runs the very real risk of a number of clubs facing points deductions which could then lead to worse with a linked relegation increasing the risk of Administration.

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          • #6
            Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

            Not shy on asking stupid questions. Would somebody like to explain to me like I'm 5...

            How does a club that's been under an embargo, hence not been spending money, how are we in a position where we are having to watch the pennies? I know we gave a fee for Turnbull and I expect for some of the loans, I just can't understand after a period of literally spending zero we have to wait and hear last minute what we can spend.

            Also, I spoke to a City fan in work (never met him before in my life) who said we've had £20mil for Sala? this surely isn't true?

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            • #7
              Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

              Originally posted by Dembe View Post
              Not shy on asking stupid questions. Would somebody like to explain to me like I'm 5...

              How does a club that's been under an embargo, hence not been spending money, how are we in a position where we are having to watch the pennies? I know we gave a fee for Turnbull and I expect for some of the loans, I just can't understand after a period of literally spending zero we have to wait and hear last minute what we can spend.

              Also, I spoke to a City fan in work (never met him before in my life) who said we've had £20mil for Sala? this surely isn't true?

              We are having to restrict spending because for several seasons we have been incurring financial losses at or around the allowable level under Profitability and Sustainability rules (FFP) . The EFL have been clamping down on all clubs, especially at Championship level . for the last couple of years. The audited May 2023 accounts which are due to be filed at Companies House by the end of this year should make for interesting reading.

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              • #8
                Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                Originally posted by Ninian1962 View Post
                We are having to restrict spending because for several seasons we have been incurring financial losses at or around the allowable level under Profitability and Sustainability rules (FFP) . The EFL have been clamping down on all clubs, especially at Championship level . for the last couple of years. The audited May 2023 accounts which are due to be filed at Companies House by the end of this year should make for interesting reading.


                Most clubs audited accounts for the end of year which have been submitted make very interesting reading, have a look at Swiss Rambles website

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                • #9
                  Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                  Originally posted by Dembe View Post
                  Not shy on asking stupid questions. Would somebody like to explain to me like I'm 5...

                  How does a club that's been under an embargo, hence not been spending money, how are we in a position where we are having to watch the pennies? I know we gave a fee for Turnbull and I expect for some of the loans, I just can't understand after a period of literally spending zero we have to wait and hear last minute what we can spend.

                  Also, I spoke to a City fan in work (never met him before in my life) who said we've had £20mil for Sala? this surely isn't true?
                  I don't think we are currently under any embargo/restrictions, but from what the OP said, there's a new body that has been scrutinizing clubs' accounts - up to end of December, and they took until late in January to confirm we were OK..

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                  • #10
                    Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                    Originally posted by Ninian1962 View Post
                    We are having to restrict spending because for several seasons we have been incurring financial losses at or around the allowable level under Profitability and Sustainability rules (FFP) . The EFL have been clamping down on all clubs, especially at Championship level . for the last couple of years. The audited May 2023 accounts which are due to be filed at Companies House by the end of this year should make for interesting reading.
                    Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                      Makes you wonder what will happen to Hull if they don’t go up.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                        Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
                        Makes you wonder what will happen to Hull if they don’t go up.
                        They will do a Leeds from a few years ago

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                        • #13
                          Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                          The messenger got a right kicking on the other site.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                            Originally posted by sneggyblubird View Post
                            The messenger got a right kicking on the other site.
                            I`ve given up on there now because of the reaction of a certain individual who can hardly read or write and so doesn`t, won`t or can`t understand a lot of what is posted but claims to know everything about football finances, what happens with transfers etc and also claims that anyone who disagrees with him is either a liar or a mouthpiece for the club. It is a shame as it spoils it for the decent posters on there.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Supporters Trust statement on the January Transfer Window

                              Originally posted by Ninian1962 View Post
                              I`ve given up on there now because of the reaction of a certain individual who can hardly read or write and so doesn`t, won`t or can`t understand a lot of what is posted but claims to know everything about football finances, what happens with transfers etc and also claims that anyone who disagrees with him is either a liar or a mouthpiece for the club. It is a shame as it spoils it for the decent posters on there.
                              Don't blame you at all.

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